• JustMarkov@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Let’s be honest, Signal is not perfect either:

    • It requires your phone number
    • It has had some suspicious funding sources
      (UPD: It was funded by CIA)
      (UPD2: Here I will quote www.securemessagingapps.com:

    This matters because “money talks”, as the saying goes. If the company or person behind the money is likely to have reason not to protect customers’ privacy, it’s important to know. This could be indicative of the company not doing as they say (Google, Whatsapp, for example) or changing their mind once they’ve onboarded enough customers from whom they can make money.

    (I’m gonna find sources for the last two statements a bit later to not be unsubstantiated)
    Done.

    Although, we all can agree, that Signal is still better than Telegram, or WhatsApp, or Threema, or whatever.
    Still, we probably want to look at the better alternatives, like Simplex or Session.

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      5 months ago

      suspicious funding

      Which lines of its libre software source code are malicious?

      requires your phone number

      It’s centralised

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        Which lines of its libre software source code are malicious?

        It’s not about code, but about funding.

        It’s centralised

        Yes, and it’s the downside, no matter how you look at it.

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          So, which malicious lines of libre software source code have been funded? This is how we stop FUD. Don’t let them derail us.

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            5 months ago

            Don’t get me wrong. As far as we know, no malicious code have been funded. The very fact that the Signal was sponsored by the CIA is suspicious (maybe I used some incorrect words, sorry if so). Of course, it’s totally up to you whether you think that fact is sus or not.

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    5 months ago

    I can’t believe people are saying Telegram and Threema might be better than Signal. Signal isn’t perfect but Telegram and Threema are worse.

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      5 months ago

      It really depends on your use case. Most of my simple chat messages are the same as I would have in any public space. I have no need for encryption, I have need for convenience in that regard. With Telegram I have my chat history on all devices and don’t need to use my phone to connect which are two must-haves for me. For my use case, Signal is the worse option. That doesn’t make Signal bad, just not suitable for me.

      As a privacy-concious person I am very much aware of the non-secure nature of my chats, but since that is not a factor of consideration to me when it comes to casual chats with a few friends and family members. The worst thing Telegram could do is analyse my chats and … then what?

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      Signal is not applicable when you need a public space for people to just have a discussion, like in discord. Signal clients are clunky and rely on cross sync from what I see, while telegram clients are well made and convenient to use. Even Whatsapp went away from electron so I’d choose it over signal any day.

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        Signal clients are clunky

        Obviously you have never used Element for matrix. Signal is like a Ferrari in comparison.

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          5 months ago

          Does it sync automatically between desktop and mobile? Can I share an image into it on mobile and have it a few seconds later on laptop?

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        5 months ago

        Have you tried Signal recently? On Android it’s very well polished.

        In fact I believe it’s a shame that not more people use such a beautiful app, regardless of privacy and security implications.

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          I have no use for it for now and as long as it’s still electron on desktop I don’t want to have it running.