If you want to bet on the fate of the UnitedHealthcare assassin, you’ll have to do it outside of America (or through a VPN)

Unless those markets are checked by U.S. regulators. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has oversight on prediction markets like Kalshi and PredictIt. On December 13, all wagers related to Magione vanished from the sites. According to Bloomberg, Kalshi removed the Mangione-related wagers from its sites after it received a “notice from…regulators.” The outlet writes that the CFTC “bans futures trading linked to crimes including assassination, terrorism, and war if the agency decides the so-called events contracts are against the public interest.”

On Polymarket all assassin-related bets are on. “Will Luigi Mangione fire his lawyer before 2025?” Polymarket has the odds at just 1 percent. “Will it be confirmed that Luigi Mangione used psychedelics?” The users give it a 43 percent chance. “Luigi Mangione motivated by denied claims?” On December 10, Polymarket had this at a 75 percent chance, but it plummeted to around 25 percent.

  • Taokan@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    16·
    4 days ago

    I could see where it might set a bad precedent. But the week I spent in Vegas, there was a constant sign running an ad that you could bet on the Presidency, and I can’t think of a single good argument about how betting on a trial is more dangerous than betting on the office that can undo any federal crime with a pen stroke.

  • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    429·
    5 days ago

    Downvote away, but this is what cryptocurrency is actually good for. We should be crowdfunding Luigis. The mainstream financial system does not work for us.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        271·
        5 days ago

        Of course, but we should be allowed to gamble on this.

        One way we could have funded him would be to start gambling on whether Brian Thompson is alive next year. If you want to insure against Thomson extorting you, then you bet that he will live. If you’re Luigi, then you bet that Thomson will die… before improving your odds. That way there’s no telling which participant in this “assassination market” is Luigi.

        (I’m speaking hypothetically about a killing that took place in the past, not suggesting that we start betting on anyone’s life. Because that would make us insurers.)

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          5 days ago

          The payment system is irrelevant. The feds shut down the bets on the site, not the payments themselves. It’s not like the feds can’t track Bitcoin transactions if they want to anyways. Besides, the transaction fees for BTC are like $4 now. Do you want to pay a $4 fee on a $20 bet?

          • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            22·
            4 days ago

            It’s a lot harder to shut down dark web sites, like the Silk Road that ran for years. Both the website and the payments need to be difficult to shut down.

            On dark web sites you generally deposit to an account, so you’d only pay the Bitcoin transaction fee for deposits and withdrawals. As of this writing that’s under a dollar, for any number of bets.

            If you want to use a bunch of different dark web sites, and/or want improved privacy, then you can use the Lightning network, which has onion routing like Tor and drastically lower fees. Or just use Monero; my point isn’t really specific to Bitcoin.