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I’m sorry but even this won’t make me a vegetarian. Hopefully lab grown meat advances so I can continue to eat meat without weighing on my conscience.
The science of consciousness is cool and all, but feel free to enjoy eating meat if that’s what gets you off. No judgement here.
Edit: I should add that this was supposed to be a lame penis joke. Clearly didn’t land as well as I’d hoped
Some judgement here. Knowingly causing suffering to sentient beings for your pleasure non consensually is kinda squicky. At least get the cow at the end of the universe that wants you to eat it.
Where are you going to draw the line? If every creature is worthy of consideration there won’t be much left to eat.
Sentience. We got all these plant things to eat. Some of them even make things they want other beings to eat, i.e. fruit.
Good luck harvesting a field of soy without crushing a few field mice or worse
Gee gosh, haven’t heard that clever and witty argument before. Not even vegans are trying to be perfect, they’re trying to minimize suffering. The top comment didn’t say they’d care about field mice, they said they don’t care about sentience because they take pleasure in the products of its destruction. Not really interested in talking any more with someone that misses the point so obviously whenever on purpose or because of a lack of mental faculties. Bye.
You’re just comfortable with suffering you’re willfully ignorant of. You don’t care about sentience any more than they do.
i have always assumed its on a spectrum
Same,more neurons create more complexity but not necessarily more acute distress. Although you could imagine there’s only so much distress a 100 neurons could create. That being said if you watch a bacteria get killed by another it quite clearly is not enjoying it
Would it not be relative? If sentience were to emerge from just 100 neurons, wouldn’t their experience of terror be the same as our own? I mean, you could argue that ego is required for true suffering, but I think there is a more fundamental biological aspect that ensures all species capable of moving out of the fire are incentivized to do so.
I always kinda assumed insects where sentient. I’ve seen a bumblebee get excited over finding a flower with a lot of pollen in it.
An insect that is semi squashed is very clearly suffering and aware of its own suffering
I’ve always felt the same, but that’s empathy talking. It’s been difficult to prove that the action is anything more than neurological response. I’m happy to see science is finding evidence to support what instinct has been telling us.
Just my 2cent but… NOSHIT Sherlock?
Even plants are sentient and way more evolved than we are… BUT in THEIR own direction.
We think that we HUMAN specie are the only sentient and intelligent thing, but every animal specie, insect, living being has somehow a complex evolved way of thinking/living.
And guess what? Animals have blood, eyes, a brain, vessels, produce babys, a complex chemical body interaction… If that isn’t a sign for you that all living being are… Living… Than it’s time to get out of your head, and get into your heart and reconnect with nature.
