• John Richard@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Right… I mean, to be quite honest… if Biden/Trump in 2024 is the best they can come up with, maybe something like that will waken up the Democrats to actual consequences when they continue to run such shitty candidates.

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          Look up how Hussein took power. Or Hitler. Or Putin. Or pooh bear.

          There will be no Democrats. Or democracy.

          Only bodies.

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              I never comment in politics threads. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and invites the kind of discourse I try to avoid recreationally.

              But I had to reply to you because a) it’s weird how much I’m seeing the word “begging” lately, and b) what kind of “begging” should he even do? “Please, please, please vote for me?” And how would that change things at all? Or even help?

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                I mean the previous commenter is making it sound like Democrats are going to be executed if Trump is elected. Did I interpret that correctly? Does Biden know that? Is he worried? Because he doesn’t seem worried at all to me.

                EDIT: Anyone got an answer?

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                  I mean I’d like to think he’s worried, and will actually start talking about nationalizing marijuana legalization with actual plan to implement it, or to make internet a utility… but he seems to think backing israel and getting some 20 year old debts canceled, and then reversed by the supreme court, is going to get him enough votes

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          We vote now to maintain and carry this frustration and momentum to make change. What we don’t do is shoot ourselves in both feet and wonder why we can’t walk.

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            7 months ago

            So you’re under a lot of frustration by voting Biden? Or you are saying you’re so scared to say anything negative about him because he isn’t a very good candidate and you’re scared he’ll lose to Trump?

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              Stop commenting on posts and attempting to twist narratives by offering the illusion of choice. You’re creating traps by seeming to offer two separate choices that lead towards the same outcome. So here’s the reality:

              Trump sucks. The Republican party acts purely in its own interest. People who support either the candidate or the party do so because they believe harming others is an action they can support if it means some end they do mental backflips to justify. The majority of those supporting do not act in good faith in discussions and instead attempt to derail conversations with barely relevant “facts” and by making others feel as if they need to defend something, while also being unreasonable.

              I support anyone who isn’t claiming they will be a dictator. I support anyone who is attempting to enact positive and lasting change, which you will attack. I support those who do not attempt coups.

              Who do you support?

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                It isn’t a matter of who I support, it is about what I support… and neither candidate offers it. So, yes I’m stuck voting for Biden which isn’t really a choice. But I’ve already been in this position before, and it is a bad choice by Democrats to have another election where people aren’t really excited about the candidate and to simply argue that if you don’t vote for Biden, that you’ll get Trump.

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            7 months ago

            Wedge driving? Ask yourself, why are Democrats so scared? If you pick the best person on your team to go up the worst player of the opposition, you wouldn’t be scared.

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    7 months ago

    In reality the addled brain orange mobster envisions a “bloodbath” if he is elected.

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          There are tons of Democrats they could have ran to generate more momentum than Biden. Heck, Michelle Obama could have ran. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would bring out more voters than Biden. Bernie Sanders obviously another great pick.

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            Michelle Obama is (shouldn’t be, but is) a polarizing figure, especially on the right because she’s both female and black. Putting her as the Dem nominee would likely galvanize and energize the GOP base because heaven forbid a black woman be in the White House.

            AOC isn’t old enough yet, and she is considered by many outside of her district as too extreme.

            One of the main issues (and IMO, one of the dumbest issues) is age. One of the main complaints from voters is that both Trump and Biden are too old. Bernie Sanders is older than both and has already had multiple runs that didn’t pan out. Sanders would just be considered more of the same if he tried running a third time.

            The next pick down would probably be someone like Elizabeth Warren, and Trump would be cramming the “pocohontas” thing down everybody’s throats from day one. There’s also the fact that she’s in her 70s herself, giving more support for the belief that all Dems have are a bunch of out-of-touch retirees during a time when the voting base wants younger people with newer ideas and values.

            I’ve said from day one that Biden is going to be looked upon as this generation’s Jimmy Carter: A man who actually achieved a lot but was always looked upon as the “lame duck” president after Nixon/Ford that never got the credit for his accomplishments that he deserves. And that’s pretty much exactly what happened.

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              You don’t understand why Trump is so popular to the right. The more pissed off and the more the right talk about and attack someone and think with their emotions, the more public attention they get which actually helps that candidate. The Democrats absolutely should have picked a black woman as their candidate. The Republicans wouldn’t be able to resist saying the most vile things constantly and that would equate to non-stop media coverage that actually benefits the Democrats. AOC will be 35 during the election and legal scholars have determined that the age you will be at the time of the election is what matters, not how old you are leading up to the election. She would be a great choice and also get non-stop media coverage as a result of the Republicans hate for her.

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                You don’t understand why Trump is so popular to the right.

                Not the person you’re responding to but I certainly don’t understand their love for him, but that’s probably because I’m not a right wing shill that’s in love with Trump and wants him to win like your posts strongly suggest that you are.

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                  So my posts saying that AOC, Michelle Obama & Bernies Sanders would have been great candidates over Biden somehow tells you that I support Trump? What planet are you living on?

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      No. They’re not the same.

      One side is a racist idiot who just wants to rape prostitutes and Hollywood starlets and eat McDonalds dinners with basketball players and Kanye. The American Dream!

      The other side supplies a foreign army with ammo to kill women and children in Gaza and fuels a war in Eastern Europe. Kissingers’ dream!

      They are very different.

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        Whoa whoa wait now. You forgot to apply Paragraph #2 to the first as well, in addition to the fact that the first also seeks to enable genocide in Ukraine.

        Then you’re getting closer.

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    They should be worried. With the political show trials going on, if this all doesn’t work and he does get back in the White House, the gloves are gonna be off. Yeah I know this’ll piss people off, but they’ve literally decided to weaponize the judiciary against him for being president. Guy does think his term did throw a wrench in TPTB’s plans and they don’t want that happening again. The states these trials are happening in and the timing is not fucking subtle. If this was not politically motivated, these trials would have been happening in 2012 or 2005.

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      If this was not politically motivated, these trials would have been happening in 2012 or 2005.

      Trump’s criminal charges involve his handling of documents after his Presidency, his attempt to illegally hold on to power at the end of his Presidency, and his financial records from when he ran for President in 2016. Do you think Antifa has a time machine?

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        Could I have made it more obvious what I was talking about than by stating those years and using the words “trials” instead of “charges”? like did you really think I was talking about those? JFC.

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          The article is talking specifically about the Jan 6 stuff, which he is facing a criminal trial over. In fact, when Mitch McConnell voted to acquit Trump in the impeachment for that, he directly stated that it was because it was more suitable for a criminal trial.

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            That doesn’t mean I have to be limited to talking about that, and I made it REALLY obvious i wasn’t.

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      The TIMING of these Trials that Trump keeps DELAYING and DELAYING is EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS! I think for my SELF!