• maniii@lemmy.world
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      Including that entire party should be written off from the annals of history forever.

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    A couple of retired women I spoke to prior to the 2016 election voted for the shitgibbon because Hillary had been “running a pedophile ring” and had “ordered hundreds of murders”. Russian / GQP propaganda was very effective.

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    Even the Norwegian media hyper normalized that Clinton would win. The news cycle was a circlejerk for how amazing Clinton was and how stupid hair Trump had. When push came to shove on the election day I couldn’t do anything else but laugh.

    Clinton booked this huge avenue with a major show to be out on when she won. The balloons weren’t dropped and she didn’t even show on stage. Trump had his election speech in a conference room in his hotel. It was a perfect display of the establishments arrogance and it confirmed Trump’s rambling.

    Ffs I don’t want it to happen again. Please no. But I believe the 2016 election was good for your democracy. If you sleep in a democracy you wake up in a dictatorship.

    Put Trump in jail and do some actual draining of the swamp soon.

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      the 2016 election was good for your democracy.

      It was not. The damage done in those four years far outweighed any lessons learned. Hell, we were supposed to have learned with W.

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        Hell, we were supposed to have learned with W.

        and this is why I have no confidence in our system. With how bad bush was, it should’ve completely destroyed the republican party then and there. Instead republicans get worse and democrats do nothing except insist that they must only be slightly better than republicans so that elections get as close to 50-50 as possible.

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    Is this the new defense? I ask because I’ve also seen people here defending biden by mocking people for not liking him “because he’s not perfect”. No one hates these slimeball politicians because they’re a little less than perfect, they hate them for doing heinous shit like supporting genocide. We all saw how hillary laughed after she was key in destroying Libya. She was a favorite of billionaires and gave well-compensated speeches to big banks. She’s a garbage out-of-touch politician who threw her weight around in the democratic party and in the media to shut out Bernie, who was an actually great candidate who would’ve beaten trump.

    In her mind, it was her turn for the presidency and you can see how bitter she is about that loss because she still won’t shut the fuck up about it to this day and she loves to insert herself into conversations. So yeah, thanks for giving us trump, you selfish asshole. At least we all can point and laugh at you for your repeated embarrassing public displays of bitterness over never achieving your power-hungry dream of becoming president. Pokemon go to hell.

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      This fucking ghoul claimed Henry Kissinger as a “good friend and mentor”, yet feels entitled to votes from anyone on the left?

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      Clintons are the “NEW-Money” in politics. Bill was governor and Hillary was a lawyer getting kickbacks from Bill and vice-versa. Nothing illegal but it was all “gray-area”. People hated this type of double-dealing. Just barely-legal but completely unethical and morally-bankrupt. Then Bill got caught lying with his pants down.

      Hillary never understood peoples sentiments that the Clintons smooched on the system and tax-dollars yet they still got away with it.

      This is a problem of character meets long-term actions and tendencies.

      Hillary never got “her turn” because dirty politicians are not loved. She forgot that hard-work pays off when you are clean. And she forgot to campaign in Michigan and other places instead wanted to take a break.

      Hindsight 20/20. If she and Bill had come clean, told the voters that they wont be doing the old runaround and clean up the system and take responsibility and have Bill “SHUT THE EFF UP YOU PERVY IDIOT”. There might have been a chance that Hillary could have garnered sympathies as a hardworking housewife with a screwloose husband.

      Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and all that.

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    Reading beyond the headline, I kind of agree that she faced a sexist double standard where she suffered electorally for things that wouldn’t have impacted a male candidate as strongly.

    Being a slimy, self-entitled political creature is pretty acceptable for a male politician.

    Then again she did win the election by 2 percentage points. So as much as I dislike her, it’s probably more of a structural issue than either sexism or candidate quality.

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      She’s been suffering sexism for a long time. When bill was fucking around and cheating on her in the 90s, people were straight up blaming her for it. They were also being horrible to Monica L, while giving bill a wink and a nod for being a dude. The problem is that she took that and instead of making herself a softer, sympathetic and likable politician, she just doubled down on being harsh and unlikable.

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        She helped provide cover for Bill while smearing his victims. It has nothing to do with sexism, she’s a shitty person.

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    No, everyone abandoned her because she says and does shit like this.

    Nobody owes you anything, Hillary. In fact, you owe the rest of us a whole fucking lot for being such a shit candidate that fucking Trump beat you.

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      Oh it’s not just that. The Hillary campaign and the DNC paid a lot of money to the media to hype Trump up because they thought he’d be an easy candidate to beat. She owes us because she created this fucking mess out of her hubris.

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        Hell her husband recruited Trump to run as Republican. They literally wanted to run against him. Keep in mind Trump was even surprised he won, she was that fucking bad.

        But now that he got taste of that power he wants it back.

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    People in general abandoned her because she’s a shitty person with shitty politics. In the words of Colin Powell everything she touches, she screws up with hubris

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      I’d much rather have had her shitty politics for four years and still have the right to an abortion.

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        It’s not just up to you, the democrats should’ve picked someone that was electable.

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        Then your party should have done something to protect that right. They pissed away 50 years with empty promises

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    Clinton blaming Russia to Trump being an illegitimate president to 3rd parties and now…

    What next, herself… never!

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    This is why fascism will win, this mentality right here. Complete inability to self-reflect by establishment dems. All they can do is cling mindlessly to party power and sniff around in the dirt for their next lobbying payday while our Democracy sinks into the ocean.

    If you voted for Clinton in her primary or Biden in his; you are the problem. You are why we find ourselves in this moment.