• kat_angstrom@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Probably, Yes.

    But maybe not if it’s a weird prequel retcon action dramedy featuring Jack O’Neil, age 20, going undercover in Goa’uld high school to try and locate the evil fiends behind a counterfeit jeans smuggling ring, falling in love with 18 year old student Sam Carter, who sees through his macho act and urges him to try and see the good in every Goa’uld, even the Captain of the Football Team, Lants McDonaldson, the awkward son of Apophis who just wants to settle down with a human of each gender on a country farm, raising llamas.

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    No I don’t think I ultimately would, for a bunch of reasons.

    I’ve said it before in this community, the 2 decades of “gritty realistic” heartburn drama ushered in by Battlestar Galactica cured my love of television. I don’t currently subscribe to any streaming service and as they get more numerous, more expensive and worse I don’t think I’m going to pick the habit back up.

    I think I’m developing a contact allergy to resurrected IPs. Upon reading this I don’t think “Oh boy a chance for more of my favorite adventures” I think “oh brother, some business suit with a neckhole infection has detected an IP they aren’t monetizing hard enough.” The most recent TV show to catch my eye was The Good Place, which is an original property. It was made because someone had an idea. “Do you think you’d watch a new Stargate show” sounds to me like “would you buy the industrial slop we’re going to churn out anyway if we dye it the color of a thing you liked 20 years ago?” The one thing no one has there is an idea.

    It’s also just one of those shows where I don’t know what you’d do with the setting. Star Wars and Star Trek, those settings are open enough to where you could go 90 lightyears to the right and still find cool stories. Shows like Stargate, Farscape and Babylon 5 are so character-centric that I don’t know if I want to watch just another show made in that setting. Like, you could make me a Star Trek show that doesn’t have the Federation in it. Set it on a Romulan warbird or something, it would work. There have been numerous works set in the Star Wars universe that didn’t have to do with the Jedi or Rebels or Empire or whatever. What would you make out of the Farscape universe without Moya and the gang?

    No, let it rest on what it achieved.

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      Agreed. At this point seeing news of a new stargate show would instantly make me ask “what will they fuck up with this one?”. I’d rather not see it replicated (heh) in nowadays’ world of marvelized franchises and even continuing it would be meh, seeing as the scope and the stakes grew way too high even in the original shows. Basically I feel the show was a product of its time and taking it out would screw it up. Also streaming services should stop remaking every single IP and just come up with new original shows already.

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      All other points aside, “the show is too character-centric and a spin-off could never work” is what a bunch of trekkies said when TNG was announced. No Trek without Kirk, Spock, and McCoy had any hope of being a good show.

      Then TNG came out and it was fine.

      For that matter, Atlantis worked just fine for me, as well. Universe didn’t but that’s mainly because it had focus issues and a weird tone. There is potential for a good new Stargate.

      The question is, of course, what they’d do with it. The new Trek era has been pretty hit-or-miss and it’s hard to say whether we’d get the Stargate equivalent of Picard or Strange New Worlds.

      If it’s another badly lit attempt at making a show out of nothing but curse words and scowls I’d pass. But if it’s another fun, witty ensemble show that knows when to take itself seriously and when not to – yes, please.

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        See I knew someone was going to bring up TNG, that the original show was really Kirk-Spock-McCoy character centric and that was a big criticism aimed at TNG at first. And “Then TNG came out and it was fine” No it wasn’t, the first two seasons are pretty rough, the show really found its footing in the third season.

        I think trying to create a new Stargate show would be like trying to create a new show in the Hercules/Xena universe. Because they have basically the same problem: They ran out of ancient gods to kill before the series finale. I think they’ve already kinda proven they milked SG-1’s setting dry because both spinoffs went “Meanwhile in another galaxy, something almost completely unrelated is happening.”

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    I’d watch an episode or two to see if it is good at the very least because Stargate is one of my favorite TV series.

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    Depends. If it’s like SG-1 and Atlantis I’m 100% on board. If it’s more in line with SGU… it’s more like 60% on board. I felt like SGU could have been way better, but several story plots got rushed and abandoned and certain plot points got pushed hard that were really… uninteresting IMO. But the show overall kind of… made the mistake when they introduced a lot of space ships and sort started losing it’s identity. Like the stargates were just faster to get around in but no longer needed for most things.

    I’ve had an idea in my head for a while, like some new scientist who’s been working off of Carter and McKay’s work has made a discovery that the gate goes to a lot more gates than they thought. Re-makes the DHD Carter made with the new research and better tech creating a “Master Gate” or “Master DHD” (basically a gate that has the training wheels removed, IE Ancient ‘Admin’ access mode) and the gate now travels to a whole separate gate systems that no one new about before. Leading to meeting up with certain species that were only seen like once like Oannes, to find that Nem wasn’t the lone survivor of the species but was stuck and was the last survivor of the expedition. A true Nox home world (suggesting the planet we see them on was just a settlement/outpost/etc) and even the much anticipated Furlings can be found.

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    Yes if they don’t DEI it up like most shows these days.

    Incidental characters, new characters here and there, fine. A storyline where it makes sense, maybe.

    Half the crew? Um…no. Make one of the original characters go gay/trans for b.s. reasons, um…no

    Just focus on the story. Give us a GOOD story.

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      lol, fuck off. Strange New worlds has a diverse cast and is a wonderful show. Lower decks, same thing. It’s totally doable. If you’re referring to something a la Discovery, the issue is poor writing for a typical Star Trek show, not that it has a diverse cast. Stop being a snowflake and watch some reruns if you can’t handle where society is going. “Can you believe I was made to look at a black person, an Asian, a GAY, AND a woman in a position of authority? It’s enough to give me the vapors!!”

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        I think more to the other person point is it being needlessly prioritised, seemingly at the expense of quality writing/characters.

        Disco is a pretty choice example. The main character is frankly unbearable. Super unlikeable, overly emotional (despite being Vulcan) and frequently fucks up because she won’t listen or acts out of emotion. She is pointlessly insubordinate in an attempt to write her as strong but it inadvertently makes her incompetent and entitled. Everyone seems to cry, a lot, in the later season. The gay couple felt cheap and even unhealthy at some point, I think in the ep where one of them nearly dies, but unfortunately I can’t remember why. Didn’t really feel like ST just a show wearing its uniform.

        Hey at least it was super diverse though. Although as you point out, it is largely the writing that boned disco. Just feels like these shows prioritise being as diverse as possible and then jump to racism the second people notice or criticise the shows for it or unrelated elements.

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          Super unlikeable, overly emotional (despite being Vulcan) and frequently fucks up because she won’t listen or acts out of emotion.

          Being a terribly written character has norhing to do with DEI.

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            But core problem with Disco isn’t the diverse cast: it’s that they went for something that doesn’t fit with the genre star trek usually fills and have writers who aren’t good at writing sci fi or shooty shooty bang bang. This diversity thing is a total red herring for conservatives and otherwise sensitive folks who can’t accept that kind of change.

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            I have no idea what that is, from media seems to be republican speak for “not excluding anyone that isn’t white”.

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        The real issue with Discovery is that they fridged Michelle Yeoh so they could make Burnham the main character, a character they went to great lengths to show us is a violently xenophobic mutineer, and yet who is still somehow more open minded than nearly everyone else on Discovery.

        Star Trek is supposed to be woke and Discovery wasn’t. Having a black main character doesn’t make a show woke, actually promoting social progress makes a show woke.

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          Did you know they made a Star Trek show all the way back in the early 1960’s? Captain Kirk beamed down to the planet Vulcan years before Neil Armstrong landed on the Moon. Star Trek: The First One Doesn’t Get Subtitles had among its main cast three women, one of them black, an Asian man, and a Jew. That’s not what made the show woke. What made the show woke was “What are you people even fighting over?” “They’re white on the left side.”

          In the space year 1962 Gene Roddenberry hired someone to stand in front of a TV camera to be broadcast nationwide saying “Do you people see how fucking stupid racism is now?”

          Fast forward 60 years and the first or second thing I hear about a TV show is a list of demographics among the cast. “It’s a Star Trek® sequel and the captain’s a non-binary Australian aborigine and the science officer is a gay Korean and the…” “You’ll call me a xenophobic bastard if I don’t pay to see it just like everything made in Hollywood since 2016. Got it. What do they do?” “What do you mean what do they do? It’s Star Trek®.” “So they engage in a series of morality plays, work together as a team, come to diplomatic solutions to solve problems…?” “No, they bicker like juvenile siblings among each other, talk back to the captain, they scream, they cry, and kill any aliens they come across. But we payed Paramount a lot of money so we’re legally allowed to say the word “phaser.”” “I’m not paying to see this.” “How could you, you xenophobic bastard?!”

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    I’d definitely give it a try! The concept is strong enough to be that I’d even consider a full reboot, although my dream is another soft reboot where the canon is left intact and we just follow a new set of main characters, and our old favourites might pop up occasionally. Having seen Amazon do great stuff with the tail end of The Expanse I think they have the chops to make it work.

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      tail end of The Expanse

      What? They actually finished it?!

      googles

      Oh. Season 6. That leaves out an entire 1/3 of the story from the books :(

      I’d love to watch the show, but I can’t bear the thought of the story being that unfinished in the TV adaptation :(

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        Sorry to get you excited. If it’s any help, they do absolutely leave it open to return after the book time skip, they included a load of stuff that only makes sense in context of the last books.

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          I mean the last third of the series is a time skip, so they absolutely could come back in a few years and finish it off.

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    Just give us a continuation of the core SG-1 timeliness, whoever is working at stargate command now. As long as the writing is good. A reboot or recast would be the worst, laziest thing that could happen.

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      Surely Lorne is running the SGC by now according to Mackays hologram when Shepard got flung into the far future.

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        I’m in the middle of a rewatch at the moment and I can’t quite remember how it all ends 😂 I’m on season 9 of SG1 and season 2 of Atlantis

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    Consider that there was an alternate timeline already with the mirror object. How many realities could there be where Earth was brutally destroyed, never found the Stargate, or was visited by another species before finding the gate. One franchise people often forget about is Fringe. It explored many of these concepts in an interesting way.

    I will watch a new Stargate show no matter what.

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      I will watch a new Stargate show no matter what.

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