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On The Good Trouble Show (#TGTS), astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroeal joins us to discuss the recently discovered telescope astronomical plates that could offer proof of the famous UFO flap 1952 over Washington, DC, along with the former head of Harvard Astronomy Dr. Donald Menzel who destroyed astronomical plates that could have held UFO evidence. It was later discovered Donald Menzel also worked for the NSA. Dr. Villaroel presented at The Sol Foundation symposium last year on UFOs / UAPs and the scientific search for them. Her interview for this podcast will also reveal news on VASCO and the European Crash Retrieval Initiative.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - The Copernicus Revolution in Astronomy
00:03:25 - Pursuing Astronomy
00:06:48 - Younger generation's interest in UAPs
00:10:11 - The Need for Hypothesis-Driven Methods in UFO Study
00:13:41 - The focus on ET and the search for clear and testable things to look for
00:17:12 - The Origins of Vasco and the Study of UAPs
00:20:34 - Probes for Interstellar Communication
00:23:58 - Unexplained Sighting in 1952
00:27:20 - Alignment and UFO Sightings
00:30:45 - Plate Defects?
00:34:10 - UFO Phenomenon and Observational Signatures
00:37:29 - Investigating Coincidences and the 1952 UFO Washington Flap
00:41:00 - The Controversial Actions of Donald Menzel
00:44:09 - The Mysterious Coincidences
00:47:31 - Destruction of Data
00:50:57 - The EXO Program
00:54:31 - Applying the Scientific Method to UAP
00:57:59 - Hypothesis of non-human intelligence causing UFO phenomenon
01:01:09 - The Importance of Careful Hypothesis Testing
01:07:54 - The Mysterious Dr. Menzel at Harvard University
01:11:30 - David Shapiro's skepticism about scientists and the Menzel Gap
01:15:05 - Suspicious UFO Sightings and the Harvard Connection
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