• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I am for what would actually help.

      In the case of Palestine, a vote for a third party helps those who would make things worse for innocent Palestineans.

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        3 months ago

        pardon correct what said

        so you are for any party that has the best sales pitch, genocide, and drunk driving but draw on the line on third parties who are in the streets right now protesting for a better world / human life+dignity and saying that they might have a solution at least one we have not considered or tried while your party throws an expensive gala with celebs?

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            3 months ago

            how does throwing a gala to celebrate the democrats help anyone

            we have third parties fighting for me and you while actively protesting said gala out in the street so you and your fellow earthlings can have a better tomorrow yes they went that far

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              The “gala” is about electing democrats, the party which is much more sympathetic to Palestineans than the alternative.

              Getting democrats elected is much more likely to help Palestineans. Making it harder to elect the democrats is much more likely to harm Palestineans.

              This, unlike the Middle East, isn’t particularly complicated.

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                During President Biden’s speech on the first night of the DNC, protesters briefly unfurled a banner that read “Stop Arming Israel,” before it was wrested away by convention staff. We speak to three members of the group Delegates Against Genocide who organized and carried out the action: Esam Boraey, a human rights activist and delegate from Connecticut; Florida DNC member Nadia Ahmad; and progressive Jewish activist Liano Sharon, an elected delegate from Michigan. “We were there specifically to confront President Joe Biden,” says Ahmad, explaining why the protesters chose to disrupt Biden’s speech. “He’s the one who can stop this genocide by picking up the phone and making a phone call, and he has chosen not to do that.”

                https://www.democracynow.org/2024/8/20/dnc_biden_speech_palestine_protest

                The DNC is responsible for articulating and promoting the Democratic platform and coordinating party organizational activity.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

                Israel and Palestine Further information: American Jews in politics, Arab lobby in the United States, and Israel lobby in the United States The 2012 Democratic Party platform endorses maintaining commitment to Israel’s security, claiming a strong and secure Israel is vital because of strategic interests and common values, the Obama administration providing nearly $10 billion to Israel in the past three years, military support for Israel, such as the Iron Dome system, the Egypt–Israel peace treaty, the Israel–Jordan peace treaty, and recognizing Jerusalem as and remains the capital of Israel, and opposes any attempt to delegitimize Israel on the world stage.[15][additional citation(s) needed] The platform also states that Democratic Party seeks peace between Israelis and Palestinians, and supports a two-state solution, under conditions that Israel’s security concerns are met and any Palestinian partner must recognize Israel’s right to exist, reject violence, and adhere to existing agreements.[14]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States)

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      3 months ago

      No one is supporting drunk driving.

      In the silly hypothetical, you MUST leave the bar in a car. There are only 2.

      You have to pick. It’s not realistic because in real life you could get an Uber or walk.

      I’m with 2 beers over tim.