• crispy_kilt@feddit.de
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    4 months ago

    Not voting for Biden is the same thing as voting for Trump.

    Voting for Biden doesn’t mean supporting him. It means preventing Trump from becoming president.

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      4 months ago

      Exactly. This is what I cannot understand from all these “true hyper-leftist” people. You do realize that the future of the USA is at stake here, and that our system is fundamentally rigged to not allow any real alternative as a choice, right? Your brain-dead “BIDEN BAD VOTE THIRD PARTY” is just going to enable Trump and then you’ll never be able to vote for anyone ever again as you are forced to participate in alt-right Trump rallies every single day and post on the Trumpernet about how much you love Trump. This isn’t much of an exaggeration – this where they want to go if Trump wins.

      You’re not supporting Biden. This isn’t how our vote works. You’re voting for the person less likely to fundamentally fuck our country up. And in case you still don’t quite understand who this is, that is Biden.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        The largest current of leftists aren’t saying you cannot vote for Biden, and that you should vote third party, but that ultimately change comes from outside the electoral system.

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          4 months ago

          Not the point. Trump needs to be defeated, and the way we’re going to do that is voting for Biden. There’s no other way. It’s not going to happen. You are absolutely deluded if you think there is another way.

          After we fend off the Trump bullshit, then, yes, we have to make actual change to push us much further left. I don’t get how all the ultra-leftists cannot fathom this simple fact.

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        4 months ago

        This is ignorant fear mongering. If thats the way the system works as you say? Then its our duty as citizens to destroy the system entirely. If thats America then this is not a democracy and its certainly not a democracy worthy of being preserved. IF that is the system you claim Joe biden stands to preserve? Then we SHOULD let trump come in and tear the whole thing down.

        I think trump is a fundamentally morally detestable character. Butt iv lived thru 1 trump presidency. Hes backwards, hes an ass. Hes not a good leader. But hes not the end of everything as we know it. And I’m not giving more power to a corrupt party of beaurocrats who continue to lie to my fucking face while selling me out to corporate interests behind my back and completely hollowing out our countries economic capability all the while refusing to make good on any of their promises and funneling all my tax money to foreign wars while we bleed for healthcare. Fuck this countries “democracy” the fact you even believe we live in a democracy is hilarious. Congress has a 14% approval rating. Our representatives do not represent the will of the america people. They represent the will of their largest financial donors.