• RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    So close to being self aware. What happens when you reverse the roles with the same logic then? Judging a police force for their most violent cops but not judging a demonstration for their most violent participants is what? Are you suddenly a ‘freedom fighter’ because you believe your cause is just? History proves the worst people always think their path forward is the righteous one. I really wish we’d stop getting distracted by this shit and fight against the real oppressors of us all: The wealthy.

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        6 months ago

        I’m 14 and that’s deep. Way to sidestep the actual point.

        The counter to hypocrisy is to be principled, yet that sign seems to accuse people of the exact thing it represents. I’ll ask again, if your enemies are oppressors, does that make you a self-claimed freedom fighter? Rebel? Or something less flattering - Terrorist.

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          6 months ago

          yeah grabbing the hammer is a remarkably wise plan as far as self defense in this hypothetical

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            6 months ago

            Wonderful, then you’d agree we should get rid of all hammers then too right? Clearly it’s the fault of the tool, not the one wielding it.

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                6 months ago

                Yeah it’s hard to stay consistent when warped logic is applied to different scenarios. I’ll spell it out for you, Mr. White.

                If a murderer uses a hammer to murder, you don’t ban hammers, you go after the murderer. So then why when the wealthy use the police as a tool, you try to ban police, instead of going after the wealthy?

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                  6 months ago

                  breh you asked what we do if a man hits me on the head with a hammer

                  my genuine immediate reaction would be to wrestle the hammer out of control of the man

                  but for some reason you think that my first reaction, being in imminent danger of immediate injury and death, is to start canvassing the neighborhood? gathering signatures to ban hammers from the local Lowes or something? meanwhile the guy with the hammer still has his hammer and is beating the shit out of me. i actually would not do that.

                  i’m being quite consistent where you are being quite silly 😛

                  edit: also no one said “instead” but you. pardon me for not taking this seriously i just don’t care (about your messed up hypothetical; i care deeply about institutional violence)

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                    6 months ago

                    I’m not asking for your emotional or instinctive response to the situation, I’m asking you who you hold accountable. Your response seems to hold a tool (hammer/cop) instead of the thing that used it to hurt you(criminal/wealthy).

                    Yes, you don’t care, I get it. You can’t engage with serious shit so why the fuck are you responding? There will always be another tool, always be another way to hurt people, stop fucking focusing on the tool and go after the person using it. So exhausting trying to teach morons unwilling to learn.