As someone who loves snarking on both TBP & alicia, I was very VERY put off by the holier than thou attitudes in the alicia sub after birdies got shut down about the levels of snark. “Oh that’s why we have the rules that we have” you are not better than any of us, k thanks! There are still plenty of comments daily on that sub that teeter the line of being fatphobia, let’s not act above it all. Sorry I just had to get that off my chest & I’m glad to be here. ❤️

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    Some of them were trying to blame Janette and that really got my blood boiling but I wasn’t going to pick any fights over there. It does seem that some have an agenda of some kind but I can’t figure out why.

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    I was just thinking about that earlier today, after reading through comment after comment attacking her appearance. They don’t even flirt with fatphobia, they openly practice it and say horrible things about her appearance constantly including:

    Big forehead, big chin, meaty fists, frizzy hair, sweat slick around her legs, needs to wear absorbent underwear on her head, foul, doesn’t wash, thin, stringy hair, parched, still nothing special, Jay Leno wants his chin back, comments about overeating, she’s a feral beastie…it goes on and on.

    I see much worse “bullying” there on a daily basis than I ever saw on TBP snark, so not sure where their attitude is coming from. I stopped participating in that sub because it was mostly all about insulting her looks and not about what makes her problematic.

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      Exactly! Alicia is an asshole. She’s a mean, vindictive bully. I’d bet she always has been. There is plenty to be critical of besides her appearance.

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      Ya like how she constantly is editing herself to be smaller & causing body dysmorphia since she doesn’t disclose her true clothing size but the comments going on about how repulsive they find her are just…😬😬😬 I have no words.

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      Definitely agree with this. There are some good conversations on there but most of it is just garbage gossip. They are no better than any other snark sub. Snarking is snarking.

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      This is how I feel with many other snark subs. I’ve always felt ours was by far the tamest snark I have personally seen, because the majority of the posts that did touch on appearance were moreso observations about the editing and the difference in her real appearance vs what she posted

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    I despise Alicia but I never participated in any of the fat shaming and agree that sub has no moral high ground to stand on. I also think they’ll be next once Alicia figures out how Sarah did it.

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    1000%. I was so disheartened. I had to comment on a thread that was basically blaming it all on the mods. Fuck right off with your “this is why we have the rules we do”. There wasn’t near the pressure and attention on Leakys sub compared to all the eyes on birdies. We were under a microscope. I used to love that place, but I’m over it now.

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    There are some foul and awful comments in that sub. They just hide it all in a weekly thread. I’d argue that they aren’t even teetering the line of fatphobia, some comments are flat out fatphobic. I guess we have a new need to discuss where do we draw the line on snark pages?

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    100% agree. It was nasty.

    Oh that sub is totally fat phobic. Not teetering in the least!!!

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    I felt the same. I rarely go on there but I did just to see what was happening with our sub and their attitude gave me good reason to not wanna post. They’re always making fun of her weight and her looks etc. so I don’t get why they think they’re any better than us?

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      Didn’t you know, they follow MUCH stricter guidelines including making everyone post to a single weekly thread /s 🤡

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      I visit there quite often and some people are really funny but others can be vicious. There’s a real paranoia vibe

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    I agree! There was definitely a smugness and “told you so” attitude I didn’t appreciate. Their subreddit is dead anyway, likely due to their moderation and arbitrary rules

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    The Alicia sun makes us look kind. They are mean and fatphobic af. I do not like AMc but the nastiness in that group is straight up mean girls

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    Hm I would say that calling Sarah a pervert, a child predator, a hard drug user, her husband a proud boy, reposting images of her minor children, “diagnosing” her with mental illnesses, and having your minor child secretly film her are way worse than pointing out Alicia’s fat, but what do I know?

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      Hmmmm…it seems you are remembering things the way you wanted them to be and not actually how they were. We actually had a rule against calling Sarah a pervert/child predator and the mods stuck by it. I removed posts like that all the time. We did NOT post images of her children. They were always covered up/edited out. It was like that from the beginning. We even changed the rules saying that posting anything about her kids was off limits. We also added a rule banning comments/posts about mental health/armchair diagnosis. The rules for this community were actually pulled directly from the Reddit sub.

      The video where someone had their kid film her at a distance was removed. If you don’t believe me I can send you a screen shot of the conversation the mods had about how it was inappropriate to do that.

      The sub changed a lot over the 1.5 years it was active and we were always trying to make it better. As a mod from that sub, I refuse to be dragged.

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        Just because you changed the rules a few weeks ago doesn’t mean everything before that was forgotten. That post of the filming at the mall was up for a full day and even had mods commenting on it. So yeah you removed it… eventually. That was a “friend” of Janette by the way that made that mall video. So maybe stop worshipping her too if you want to stay on the right side of things. Look people want to know why the sub was shut down, and to me, these are the reasons why. There is opportunity to be better and do better here.

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          What exactly do you mean by staying on the “right side of things”? Is that some kind of threat?

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      Why are you here? Just to try to defend her?

      People have said that constantly whipping out her fupa and making bedrooms eyes at the camera, while having her children shown in the next reel/story(especially v young child in private moments) is sick. It is. Her saying consent is annoying is wrong. It is. It has been proven that her clips, a long with clips of her young child show up on porn sites. She knows this. But doesn’t care because it gets views.

      People have also commented she looks too hyped up from soda. And her pupils look huge. Thats whatever, pupils can be big for many reasons. And ppl can be hyper naturally as well. No one is accusing her of anything to her face or on her page. Ppl are allowed opinions on a snark page, even if they are wrong (I think she is just hyper cuz she is).

      I haven’t seen any pictures of her kids on the sub in the past year. The sub definitely cares more about her children’s privacy than she does. No contest.

      No one diagnosed her. Psych lexicon is part of popular culture. And again people have opinions on the very bizarre behavior she can exhibit. Again no professional is following her and telling her she is this and that.

      Someone filmed her at a PUBLIC event in a PUBLIC space. They did not go into her bathroom and film her getting undressed. She does that all by herself.

      I saw ppl saying things about Shame which I did think were unfounded. But again he allows himself to be posted. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don’t think commenting on his looks adds anything. Not everyone has the same opinion.

      Finally, everything that has been said about is based on what she puts out on public platform. She chose to be a public figure, she chose to present herself online in a way that is extremely different to reality. She made her $$$ off of her audience. Her audience has the right to have an opinion and state that opinion. They did not go to her house or film themselves saying foul shit and post it to millions of people. They made a forum on a publicly accessible site to talk amongst themselves.

      Kindly get your head out of her 🍑.

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        You said it all but just to contribute one more piece, I’ve seen a LOT of those comments mentioned on alicia’s sub ESP regarding the armchair diagnosing & speculating about being Scoots ‘beard’ like come TF on. Be so fucking for real. Let’s step down from the high horses here. I didn’t agree with the parent bribing her kid to get that content but I’m also not here to judge someone who is seemingly not a public figure & who doesn’t make money influencing the way that Sarah is.

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        Your points about the filming are important to note. Anyone in Canada can be filmed or photographed at any time while they are in a public place. There are no laws against it. In fact, It’s something people should know. The mods didn’t have to take the video down but they chose to and I hate that someone is being made to feel like a criminal for getting footage of the Princess in the wild.

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        Oh so you think it’s ok to secretly film people at the mall? That video also showed minors at the mall too. Imagine if you or your kid is secretly filmed to be put on Reddit. That is the stuff that gets subs shut down. Which is the topic of convo here

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          🍒 picking, ey? Tis the season.

          No I don’t think people should film any “regular” citizen wihout their consent. She made herself a public figure. Frankly they should have gotten closer and filmed her where she could see it. I bet she would have posed. And fuckin plz. Minors? You couldn’t see anything in that video. You could barely tell who Sarah was. 🙄

          And as has been pointed out it was taken down.

          Why does it fall on the aggrieved party to always be courteous and polite, when the one who aggravates is none of those things.

          Srsly. Why are you here

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              I wanted to reply to this person regarding the kids because the only reason that pictures exist are because their mother and nana plaster pictures of them all over the internet and anything reposted in Reddit sub had the children edited out! So that was a lie. That’s the same lie “Jen Solowski” used to spout

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          There is no expectation of privacy while in a public place. None.

          You care about the privacy of minors. The Princess has filmed and posted video of her youngest in the bath on more than one occasion and we know she has more than 2M followers and a wide open platform. She has posted her video from the nanny cam when the child thought she was just playing alone in her bedroom. There’s an expectation of privacy in those places and it’s being violated by the child’s mother.

          You’re throwing out straw man arguments

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      Everything you’re discussing was in the rules of what was not allowed, and IF anyone posted that, mods removed those posts