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The family of Israeli-American hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin announced the young man’s death early Sunday, ending a relentless campaign by his parents to rescue him that included meetings with world leaders and an address to the Democratic convention last month.
Goldberg-Polin, 23, was seized by militants at a music festival in southern Israel on Oct. 7. The native of Berkeley, California, lost part of his left arm to a grenade in the attack. In April, a Hamas-issued video showed him, his left hand missing and clearly speaking under duress, sparking new protests in Israel urging the government to do more to secure his and others’ freedom.
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Did israel gas them to death in tunnels like they did for the previous ones?
IDF Says Unclear How Three Hostages in Gaza Died, but They May Have Been Poisoned or Suffocated
Edit:
Hamas blames Israeli airstrikes for death of six hostages in Gaza
6 hostages’ bodies were rescued by IDF. Signs show they were killed in the past week by Hammas in a tunnel.
What makes you say it’s Hamas that killed them? The pattern is usually the IDF killing them, with the exception of the one incident where the IDF killed a hostage taker’s family.
So we can reasonably assume they were alive until the IDF ramped things up in both Gaza and the West Bank.
yeah. The same way that the allies are responsible for the jews killed in Bergen-Belsen because the Nazis sped up killing them as the allies approached
/s obviously
The Nazis didn’t have prisoner release on the negotiating table. I’m not saying Hamas’ terms were right, but the IDF hardly exhausted all options, or even most options, before they went “oh boy here I go killing again”.
Also, the IDF previously killed hostages that were topless waiving white, such is their bloodlust.
What type of bs comment is this. We can also safely assume they had a very happy life until hammas decided to kidnap them on OCT 7.
Did hammas expect IDF to not come and take back kidnapped citizens? Was hammas expecting Israel to just sit aside and look while 250 of its people were brutally kidnapped?
We can also safely assume they had a very happy life until hammas decided to kidnap them on OCT 7.
Absolutely. However they were kept alive until recently. What happened recently? Israel stepped up its assault. This is a strong correlation.
Does the IDF expect Hamas to just hand over hostages when they come in? If Israel were sincere about their desire to rescue hostages they would be acting differently.
To summarize: they had a happy life until a terrorist group took them during a massacre.
Then they lived a short horrible life in the hands of their takers, while there is a war outside where one side claim to fight to liberate them without actually negociating their release and the other claims to use them as hostages while not really negociating their release either.
And somewhat, they end up dead because let’s be real: neither side gave a f*ck about them.
Yeah pretty much.
I mean I’d just draw back to three things:
- Ben Gvir was closely involved in the Israeli far right group that assassinated the Israeli Prime Minister in the 90s.
- Netanyahu previously said that people should give Hamas money, as this would be the best way for Israel to take control of Gaza and the West Bank (and apparently now their eyes are on Lebanon next).
- For some reason Netanyahu left a skeleton crew on the border, sacrificing guards in the towers, relying on an early warning system with an obvious single point of failure (sole reliance on the cellphone network), on the 50th anniversary of the last Yom Kippur war. Anyone with half a brain would realise that such a calendar date is a time for heightened security, not relaxed. And this is the man who campaigned for office on his ability to provide security for Israel.
One important point: “ the other claims to use them as hostages while not really negociating their release either.” is false.
Hamas did and still agree to a biden resolution.
What happen after? Everyday israel kills a range goes from 15 to 150. Assassinate two of the main negotiator for hamas. Continue depriving civilian in gaza ( basically children and women) from basic life needed support ( limited food and medicine - limited access to water ) and ask them to move from corner to another safe place to bomb them again in the save place.
The kind that will get upvoted 4:1 and is designed to bait you into getting banned here because Lemmy totally hasn’t become Deadditt^2.
No one’s getting banned here lol. Also deaddit happened because of admin, lemmy still has every opportunity to pack up shop and create new communities (with blackjack and hookers).
Well that’s depressing =(
You are getting Sloppy with spelling. Anyway you don’t rescue a body.
yes, you do.
This body now gets the funeral it deserves.
Not trying to be pedantic, but you recover the body once someone is dead. Rescue specifically means that you’re trying to get to a person before further injury or death can occur. Recovering someone’s remains is done almost purely out of respect for our need for burials and closure. It’s a really solomn and respectful thing that’s not to be taken lightly, so recover is absolutely the right word to use here.
Source: I did some search and rescue training as a kid.
The Atheist side in me agrees with you.
But in a lot of religions (islam comes to mind for example) a proper burial is needed to advance to heaven.
So yes, you’re rescuing them and their soul.
You can also say that you rescued their bodies from destruction / defiling if you think that the bodies would have been defiled
I mean, you are trying to be pedantic lol but it’s justified in this instance.
…Sure.
I like how “American citizen” killed is very critical to wash the genocide. Media will care if you are American Citizen only if you help their agenda. I still remember how they ignored the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh
Hamas kidnapped Hersh Goldberg-Polin, among other non-combatants, on the 7th of October. As captors, Hamas were at a minimum responsible for keeping the hostages alive. Hamas could have chosen to release the non-combatants at any point but choose not to.
This not about Israel being or not being assholes. This is about Hamas not even taking a minimum of responsibility for what they have caused.
Hamas does not care about the Palestinian people. Hamas only cares about their cause.
