They should withhold their vote for the person contributing to getting their family members killed. When Democrats lose again it will be their own doing, again.
The cult of personality to the point of being willing to overlook genocide is insane
I think there are two key points to remember here:
The GOP guy would endorse much worse policies for these folks than Harris.
While Harris is too far off, pressure can also be exerted by voting for the right Senators, House Reps, and local/state officials. Unlike the GOP guy, we have a better chance of making Harris listen, if the right folks are below her.
Ultimately, I respect everyone’s choice in voting and won’t pass judgement on doing so. But either way, I believe that the key remains building up the grassroots, as AOC and Ralph Nader have both stated recently.
This sounds like some of that push him left after the election bullshit we heard from liberals in 2020. The entire US government only responds to the donor class, there is no pushing anyone any direction without money.
That’s not how any of that works. The only reason people consider 3rd party votes throw aways is because 3rd party absolutely with 100% confidence will not win the federal election right now. America isn’t primed to allow that to happen at this stage and level. They need to take local elections first and build up the movement getting enough backing to make the federal level even close to possible.
And whether voting for 3rd party is throwing a vote to one of the other two parties comes down to which one the voter would have voted for had a 3rd party not been an option. If they would’ve voted for the democratic candidate, but instead chose to vote for a 3rd party that has 0% chance of winning, then yeah, it hurts the democratic platforms chances. If they would have voted republican, but chose to vote for a 3rd party with 0% chance of winning the it hurts the repiblican platforms chance. Therefore green party votes are considered mostly detrimental to democratic platforms because their voters are more left leaning in nature. Few would vote republican when no 3rd party option presented itself.
The idea that voting democratic or republican is throwing away a vote from green to their competitor isn’t functional since the party has zero chance of winning, even if the fence sitters joined them. If they were competitive on federal level you would have a point though.
They should withhold their vote for the person contributing to getting their family members killed. When Democrats lose again it will be their own doing, again.
The cult of personality to the point of being willing to overlook genocide is insane
I think there are two key points to remember here:
The GOP guy would endorse much worse policies for these folks than Harris.
While Harris is too far off, pressure can also be exerted by voting for the right Senators, House Reps, and local/state officials. Unlike the GOP guy, we have a better chance of making Harris listen, if the right folks are below her.
Ultimately, I respect everyone’s choice in voting and won’t pass judgement on doing so. But either way, I believe that the key remains building up the grassroots, as AOC and Ralph Nader have both stated recently.
This sounds like some of that push him left after the election bullshit we heard from liberals in 2020. The entire US government only responds to the donor class, there is no pushing anyone any direction without money.
Oy, prepare for your downvotes. Because if you aren’t voting for Harris, the people here will have it out for you! lol
They dont understand how election math works, a vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third party candidate and is giving it to Trump.
That’s not how any of that works. The only reason people consider 3rd party votes throw aways is because 3rd party absolutely with 100% confidence will not win the federal election right now. America isn’t primed to allow that to happen at this stage and level. They need to take local elections first and build up the movement getting enough backing to make the federal level even close to possible.
And whether voting for 3rd party is throwing a vote to one of the other two parties comes down to which one the voter would have voted for had a 3rd party not been an option. If they would’ve voted for the democratic candidate, but instead chose to vote for a 3rd party that has 0% chance of winning, then yeah, it hurts the democratic platforms chances. If they would have voted republican, but chose to vote for a 3rd party with 0% chance of winning the it hurts the repiblican platforms chance. Therefore green party votes are considered mostly detrimental to democratic platforms because their voters are more left leaning in nature. Few would vote republican when no 3rd party option presented itself.
The idea that voting democratic or republican is throwing away a vote from green to their competitor isn’t functional since the party has zero chance of winning, even if the fence sitters joined them. If they were competitive on federal level you would have a point though.
Why is that not how it works, it seems to be the preferred method when the candidates are rearranged? The whole Stein vote gives it to Trump bullshit.
Thank you so much for this. Perfect comeback. I am totally gonna start using this!