• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    the guns i see the criminals use

    Are you running up to folks during a bank robbery and asking them for receipts?

    Or is this, like, guns you saw criminals use in a cartoon show?

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      6 months ago

      over 80% of mass shooters at K-12 schools stole guns from family members, according to research funded by the National Institute of Justice

      Stolen and ghost guns absolutely make up a large percentage of the weapons used in crimes, there are many reports and statistics to back this up. If you need some hard data I’ll be happy to provide or you could do a quick web search as well.

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        6 months ago

        Stolen and ghost guns absolutely make up a large percentage of the weapons used in crimes

        You’re leaning hard on the term “stolen” to describe a teenager using a parent’s firearm, particularly when the teen already has regular access to the weapon for target practice.

        Similarly, guns that have been anonymized after purchase aren’t something you can regulate against.

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          Sure, that’s one of the missing links: owners need to be responsible for safeguarding their weapons or face consequences. Either it was an actual theft and the kid faces legal consequences for that too or it was careless behavior on the owner and they face partial consequences for the deaths and devastation

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            owners need to be responsible for safeguarding their weapons or face consequences

            We played this game with Beto O’Rourke. He tanked his electoral prospects by suggesting he’d enforce gun laws like any other governor would enforce drug laws.

            Between the Sandy Hook style conspiracy theories and the NRA hysteria, the onus is never on the gun owners. It’s always on the victims to not get shot.