• r00ty@kbin.life
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    I’ve always found this weird. I think to be a good software developer it helps to know what’s happening under the hood when you take an action. It certainly helps when you want to optimize memory access for speed etc.

    I genuinely do know both sides of the coin. But I do know that the majority of my fellow developers at work most certainly have no clue about how computers work under the hood, or networking for example.

    I find it weird because, to be good at software development (and I don’t mean, following what the computer science methodology tells you, I mean having an idea of the best way to translate an idea into a logical solution that can be applied in any programming language, and most importantly how to optimize your solution, for example in terms of memory access etc) requires an understanding of the underlying systems. That if you write software that is sending or receiving network packets it certainly helps to understand how that works, at least to consider the best protocols to use.

    But, it is definitely true.

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      . I think to be a good software developer it helps to know what’s happening under the hood when you take an action.

      There’s so many layers of abstractions that it becomes impossible to know everything.

      Years ago, I dedicated a lot of time understanding how bytes travel from a server into your router into your computer. Very low-level mastery.

      That education is now trivia, because cloud servers, cloudflare, region points, edge-servers, company firewalls… All other barriers that add more and more layers of complexity that I don’t have direct access to but can affect the applications I build. And it continues to grow.

      Add this to the pile of updates to computer languages, new design patterns to learn, operating system and environment updates…

      This is why engineers live alone on a farm after they burn out.

      It’s not feasible to understand everything under the hood anymore. What’s under the hood grows faster than you can pick it up.

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      yeah i wish it was a requirement that you’re nerdy enough to build your own computer or at least be able to install an OS before joining SWE industry. the non-nerds are too political and can’t figure out basic shit.

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        This is like saying before you can be a writer, you need to understand latin and the history of language.

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          weird, i studied latin and the history of language just because i found it interesting. i am always seeking to improve my writing skills tho.

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            I like informing yourself about the note taking app you’re writing with a little more. It makes it a bit more obvious that it’s kind of obvious but can have many advantages.

            Personally though I don’t really see upside of building a computer as you could also just research things and not build it or vice versa. (Maybe it’s good for looking at bug reports?)

            A 30 minute explanation on how CPUs work that I recently got to listen in on was likely more impactful on my C/assembly programming than building my own computer was.

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              you wouldn’t want somebody that hates animals to become a veterinarian just because of money-lust. the animals would suffer, the field as a whole, too. maybe they start buying up veterinary offices and squeeze the business for everything they can, resulting in worse outcomes- more animals dying and suffering, workers get shorted on benefits and pay.

              people chasing money ruin things. we want an industry full of people that want to actually build things.

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                I don’t really see the connection to my comment.

                In this example wouldn’t the programmer be more of a pharmacist? (The animal body the computer and its brain the user?)

                Your statement is not wrong, it just seems unrelated.