• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    Haha, this is exactly what the video is about! You are victim blaming. Road infrastructure should accommodate and encourage the type of driving you want… and wide straight roads encourage faster driving leading to more and more serious accidents.

    People are fallable, so design streets that are narrower and add complexity, separate traffic types and see the difference.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      Of course but the requirements for getting a licence should also be strict.

      • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 day ago

        Again… the issue is predominantly a systemic issue that hides itself from responsibility by pushing the responsibility to the individual without looking at the systemic causes.

        Noone is saying the individual does not bear some responsibility, but making appropriate changes to the roads will help general safety more.

        The US roads are so wide that they can easily be narrowed and a protected (separated with grass and trees) bikelane and sidewalk installed. Add some curves and watch this issue dissapear without doing anything on the PeRsOnAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy!! Side of things. Plus it makes cities bikeable and more livable.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          24 hours ago

          Sure but from what I have heard the USA has terribly low requirements for a license.

          Both things should be done and the later is much cheaper and easier because you don’t have to rebuild every single road.

      • grue@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        24 hours ago

        License requirements can’t be strict unless the infrastructure makes accommodations for people who fail. The US is so car-centric that driving has to effectively be an entitlement, even though it’s supposed to be a privilege, in order for people not to be stranded at home.

    • Observer1199@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      16 hours ago

      I know what the video says but that doesn’t mean it’s right just because it’s a video someone made. It could be completely wrong, it could be right about one thing or about many things.

      Roads should be designed with safety as a consideration but that doesn’t excuse incompetent driving. You’re in control of a weapon that can do serious damage, it shouldn’t be a hot take to think that skill and consideration should be applied at all times when someone sits behind a wheel.

      • Tudsamfa@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        15 hours ago

        You claimed that lack of skill is the primary reason. How about you back that thing up before claiming that the video is wrong?

        We can argue that some more regulation is needed, sure, but that is missing the point. It’s not like the Netherlands only has good drivers, it’s that a bad driver can rarely deal heavy damage because the infrastructure was well designed. You cannot remove all bad drivers from the road, the best driver in the world makes bad decisions if they’re stressed and late.

        You can blame the driver for making a bad decision and see the casualties as unfortunate. Or you can see the fault in the infrastructure, which made what could have been a fender-bender into a head-on collision, and see the casualties as preventable. Those views are not exclusive, but only the latter will actually prevent accidents.

        • Observer1199@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          5 hours ago

          After you provide evidence that the video is correct in all its assertions, with detailed comparisons between countries that aren’t north american