(all the pictures in the slideshow are of tower bridge too)

  • makyo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Here’s the thing. You said a “dove is a pigeon.”

    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.

    As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

    If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.

    So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.

    Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.

    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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      2 months ago

      You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it’s just an ornithologist thing.

      • ElongatedMuskrat@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        old days of reddit and a famous poster called UNIDAN. oh the good ol days. are jackdaws not just crows?

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          Well idk they’re both corvids. I’d refer to a ‘carrion crow’ as a ‘regular crow’ - black all over, feathers onto the top of the beak, flat head, about the size of a box of Kleenex. A jackdaw is pretty distinct as far as it goes, smaller, more like the size of a mango. They’re also mainly dark grey, with a darker head. Smaller beak. Jackdaws have white or pale green eyes, crows have black eyes. Jackdaws go ‘Aah Aah Aah’, crows go ‘caw caw caw’.

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      2 months ago

      But I’m not wrong, I’m right. A dove is a pigeon.

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        2 months ago

        No, a dove is not ‘a’ pigeon. A dove is in the pigeon family. Your cousin is NOT your brother … because they’re not your brother.

        They may have been condescending (quoting a mildly modified copypasta they linked), but the explanation is very clear until the end. Do not insult knowledge with obstinance simply because you were called wrong. That is beyond pathetic and insults knowledge itself.