Yeah, that was the point, that the Britons having their own problems is irrelevant to the specific criticism of Vikings and how they traumatized all of their neighbors for a thousand years, just as the English being evil colonizers doesn’t stop the Portuguese and Spanish from also being evil colonizers.
And I didn’t compare you to fascists. I said they’re not the only ones guilty of revisionist history.
It’s part of the inaccuracies yes, that is exactly the point.
You act like the britons weren’t slave trading in Dublin and raiding their neighbors and oh yeah the thousand years of slave trading that followed.
The Viking aren’t uniquely violent in their area nor are they unique in their violence when compared to global civilizations at the time. You imply the britons weren’t raiding, pillaging, raping and slave trading each other which they absolutely were.
Similarly let’s remember there’s a huge debate about if all Norse were Viking or Vikings happened to be largely Norse given that recovered raids turn up English and Arab dudes dressed like Vikings.
The general consensus from what I’m aware of is that Viking is as good a term as any for a relatively well understood historical culture group because Germanics is too broad, Norse too specific, and Scandinavian either includes or excludes Sami and Finns unfairly depending on how you look at it.
Yeah, that was the point, that the Britons having their own problems is irrelevant to the specific criticism of Vikings and how they traumatized all of their neighbors for a thousand years, just as the English being evil colonizers doesn’t stop the Portuguese and Spanish from also being evil colonizers.
And I didn’t compare you to fascists. I said they’re not the only ones guilty of revisionist history.
It’s part of the inaccuracies yes, that is exactly the point.
You act like the britons weren’t slave trading in Dublin and raiding their neighbors and oh yeah the thousand years of slave trading that followed.
The Viking aren’t uniquely violent in their area nor are they unique in their violence when compared to global civilizations at the time. You imply the britons weren’t raiding, pillaging, raping and slave trading each other which they absolutely were.
Similarly let’s remember there’s a huge debate about if all Norse were Viking or Vikings happened to be largely Norse given that recovered raids turn up English and Arab dudes dressed like Vikings.
The general consensus from what I’m aware of is that Viking is as good a term as any for a relatively well understood historical culture group because Germanics is too broad, Norse too specific, and Scandinavian either includes or excludes Sami and Finns unfairly depending on how you look at it.
Bingo. Loosely defined and notably not all Norse cultures.