Spain's king and queen pelted with mud in flood-hit Valencia
www.bbc.com
Protesters shouted "murderer" at Felipe VI, and the prime minister had to be evacuated as the crowd grew hostile.

Summary

King Felipe VI of Spain faced a hostile crowd in Valencia, where unprecedented floods have devastated communities, leaving over 200 dead and many missing. Footage shows protesters shouting “murderer” and “shame” at the king, with some throwing objects and mud as he walked through the affected area of Paiporta.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldEnglish
    522·
    3 days ago

    They raped, murdered and pillaged my ancestors and up until the but very distant past. So pardon me for holding a grudge

    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      111·
      3 days ago

      I might have bad news for you: your ancestors raped murdered and pillaged someones ancestors. I don’t even need to know where exactly you’re from to make this statement with full confidence.

      So hold your grudge if you want, just don’t be hypocritical about it.

      • ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
        51·
        3 days ago

        Nah mate, I’m pretty sure the only barbaric civilizations were the European ones. Never heard of any american civilization doing that kind of thing in the past. Nor any asian one. It’s just the european barbarians…

        /s (although it should be pretty evident).

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      9·
      3 days ago

      Much more recently, Germans put a bunch of my ancestors in ovens. I don’t hold a grudge with the ones who had nothing to do with it (i.e. almost every German alive today).

    • elucubra@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      41·
      3 days ago

      If they raped your ancestors, which by the way I believe is disingenuous, as Im sure much mixing was consensual (not denying rape though), you are as much the offspring of the rapist as of the raped, you’d do well in starting to acknowledge that you are part of that which you hate.

      If a black person has an offspring with a white one, the offspring has the same right to be callen white or black, even though society has’nt realized that yet.

    • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
      93·
      3 days ago

      Yeah man, my ancestors were raped, murdered, and tortured by a European country in the XX’th century.

      I don’t hold this generation accountable for the crimes of their forefathers.

      Move on

      • 01011@monero.townEnglish
        28·
        3 days ago

        But they get to enjoy the benefits of the criminality of their forebears?

        • ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
          42·
          3 days ago

          So what"s your solution? Because, as far as I know, Spain doesn’t have an colonies nowadays. And what are those benefits anyways?

        • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          2 days ago

          All cultures to a greater or lesser extent, enjoy the fruits of raping and pillaging other groups. That is just how it was done for the entirety of human existence

          People like you just like to concentrate on your own perceived exceptionalism and that of your group. All this intelectual dishonesty serves to get economic benefit from playing the victim

          • 01011@monero.townEnglish
            13·
            2 days ago

            Genocide and theft are okay because everyone does it?

            Tell me that you’re of European descent without telling me you’re of European descent.

            • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              2 days ago

              You mean like how Chinese, Mongols, Japanese, Namibians, Egyptians, Somalians, Aztec, Cherokee, all raped and pillaged to their hearts content for literally hundreds and some for more that a thousand years, until someone stronger showed up?

              Yeah, get a history book

              And no, I am not European or American or come from any developed country. I am Latin American, but unlike you, I don’t get my education from internet bulletin boards

                • ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
                  21·
                  2 days ago

                  No. Smells like concentrated ignorance. Read a book. Every civilization did war crimes. Sorry to tell you dear, but eveyry single one did. So don’t be a hypocrite.

                  You think Muslims conquered all north africa and part of Europe with the power of love and flowers? Or that Japan, in the XX century was just having fun with china? Or that the Aztecs beheaded people but just a little?

                  Hitites and the gang of Mesopotamia ring a bell?