Drag was banned from !tenforward@lemmy.world a day ago. As you can see, no comments or posts were removed alongside the ban:
In fact, drag has never commented or posted in the community:
Drag has no history of transphobia and no history of trolling. And drag can unequivocably prove that drag was never transphobic or trollish on Ten Forward, because drag has never said anything there. This is a ban for literally, provably, nothing.
Buddy, you harassed the mod of that community, you misgendered his daughter and he brought receipts in the last thread you made to show what you did. In addition you’ve been referring to other people using your own drag pronoun, (probably as a substitute for you/your/you’re) which for people who do not use your pronoun is indeed misgendering.
Honestly I know the ethics of preemptive bans are questionable at best but with the past behavior you’ve exhibited I can confidently say it was not for nothing. Not by a long shot. I’d say you should get used to being banned from places if you continue to have interactions like the ones you’ve had with @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world with other people.
In short YDI, You Deserve It, big time.
you misgendered his daughter
Drag has already addressed that false claim in this thread, and drag also brought clear and unambiguous receipts.
In addition you’ve been referring to other people using your own drag pronoun, (probably as a substitute for you/your/you’re) which for people who do not use your pronoun is indeed misgendering.
This hasn’t happened. Drag is very curious to see which comments you think have been doing that, because drag would like to understand how your mind works. It’s very unlike anybody drag has ever spoken with before. Drag would be happy to clarify any cases where you’re confused.
Honestly I know the ethics of preemptive bans are questionable at best
You also gave drag bans to four communities you moderate, which drag has never visited and didn’t even know existed. Calling that “pre-emptive” is somewhat misleading, in drag’s opinion. The only effect the ban has is to pollute the modlog. It’s not “pre-emptive”, it’s a vehicle for spreading propaganda about people you don’t like. It’s harassment. Source: https://lemmy.nz/post/16152672
Please do not approach drag again. Drag wants to resolve the problem you’ve caused in the pawb.social modlog, and never see you again. Drag is not interested in pursuing your friendship.
Go try and post to those communities or vote in them, do you think that bans for communities you don’t participate in mean nothing. Of course they don’t. They deny you access to them. Their description is meant to highlight the reason they occurred, would you prefer future bans have an empty message? I don’t think that will change anything you’ll still harass and sealion me for you being banned from all future use of a community, and not being able to prevent it.
Now if you are worried about what people think of you based on your modlog incursions you should be worried about the real issues, like you saying that trans people should buy a gun and take out a red hat before doing themselves. That’s an utterly atrocious and disgusting thing to say in a trans friendly community, and since it came from you directly, it’s way worse than anything I or anyone else could’ve put in the ban reason.
The feeling is very much mutual dragonfucker. I don’t comment on these posts because I want to be your friend or tell you something. I do it because it is public and provides context and information for others, whether you respond or not doesn’t make much of a difference to me. Your responses do provide more clarity though that none of this behavior from you is at all good faith.
Go try and post to those communities or vote in them
Drag doesn’t want to. Drag never wanted to. The point was always to put what you wanted to say in the modlog. If it weren’t for the modlog’s visibility, the ban would mean nothing, because drag doesn’t want to use those communities. You knew drag wasn’t a user of those communities, you knew all this.
you saying that trans people should buy a gun and take out a red hat before doing themselves
Don’t misrepresent what was said. If you’re going to use drag’s comments as evidence, use them. The actual text drag wrote. The text which indicates that drag was not advocating suicide. No lies, please.
Drag doesn’t want to. Drag never wanted to. The point was always to put what you wanted to say in the modlog. If it weren’t for the modlog’s visibility, the ban would mean nothing, because drag doesn’t want to use those communities. You knew drag wasn’t a user of those communities, you knew all this.
Nope but believe what you wanted to believe. Modlog reasons are good moderator etiquette and you would complain to me if I wrote anything else including nothing at all, because the problem was never that I wrote anything, it’s that I hurt your pride and instilled a new fear that you could become banned from places without posting or commenting in them.
Don’t misrepresent what was said. If you’re going to use drag’s comments as evidence, use them. The actual text drag wrote. The text which indicates that drag was not advocating suicide. No lies, please.
Nice try, but suggesting suicide when you know that people are suicidal is the same as encouraging them. Feel free to disagree but that’s not just my opinion, it’s well agreed upon consensus that you don’t give people who may be thinking of killing themselves ideas on the method.
It’s also well known that you do not ever encourage people to murder others, this is what would be considered illegal or dangerous speech because you encouraged others to cause real world harm. Saying you didn’t mean it afterwards doesn’t negate it. Maybe some might buy it but I’m not and the mods clearly aren’t.
Drag didn’t suggest suicide either.
It’s also well known that you do not ever encourage people to murder others, this is what would be considered illegal or dangerous speech because you encouraged others to cause real world harm.
No, that’s not true. Every man, woman, and enby (most likely closeted) who went to the front lines of WWII and shot a Nazi dead is a hero. Shooting soldiers of Nazi Germany is an unequivocable good. Drag is proud of all the nazi killers who fought in the war, and who worked in logistics and support roles. Drag is proud of all the workers at home who kept the nazi-killing war machine going, too. Praising nazi killers isn’t illegal. It sure is dangerous, though. To nazis. To normal, non-fascist people; to queer people and people of colour; it decreases danger.
I’m not entirely convinced you’re not talking like this to take the piss, to be honest.
Yeah, this feels like a bit. They might be the type of person to role play different out there characters and rotate through them when they get bored.
Drag never uses ‘I’ in sentences to refer to themself.
They have a comment saying they are using ‘first person pronouns’, by which they mean that they are using custom, or neopronouns when referring to themself in the first person.
The grammatical problem with this is that the ‘pronoun’ they are using is their own nickname.
Which functionally reads as them referring to themself in the third person only, akin to the deprecated ‘royal we’.
This kind of behavior is common in people who have extreme social anxiety, or dissociative identity disorder.
It’s probably not a bit, a put on.
They are consistent in this odd grammatical pattern, and they seem to believe it is genuinely justifiable and socially acceptable.
Drag states that they are autistic, and trans.
They are probably legitimately mentally disordered.
… I used to date a trans person with DID, amongst other diagnosed conditions.
This kind of extremely confusing, unconventional grammatical structure was something they exhibited as well.
Drag never uses ‘I’ in sentences to refer to themself.
Dragon Fucker never uses ‘I’ in sentences to refer to Drag.
The reason it feels like a bit is it isn’t consistent with conversational usage, even as you pointed out them talking about themselves. (Or Drag talking about Drag). Or Dragon Fucker talking about Dragon Fucker.
There is a possibility this is a real person committed to a lifestyle and not a role player, but then I would suggest we are the test bed for their new unconjugated universal pronoun… and it feels fake, because its wildly inconsistent and confusing.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=10457919
Look at your modlog history…
Those are all PTB too. Most of the bans are also for communities drag has never posted in.
Perhaps drag should make a separate PTB post for each ban on a community drag has never been to. Drag already has two PTB threads for different isssues:
https://lemmy.nz/post/15935996
https://lemmy.nz/post/15899389The modlog also shows direct evidence that drag has advocated violence against transphobic fascists, which should make it clear which side of the issue of trans rights drag falls on. Drag is trans and fights very strongly for trans rights. Drag would never and has never misgendered anyone.
Drag would never and has never misgendered anyone.
Uhm… Yes you did.
And just so you know, you did that to a mod of said community.
So this is more than justified’ YDI.
No, drag didn’t. Drag assumes you are talking about the time that drag used a “they” pronoun to refer to a family member of Flying Squid during a discussion with him. Here are Squid’s explanations of the etiquette in that situation:
There. Three repeated assurances from the mod, that “they” pronouns are acceptable, and one of them is directly talking about the specific person. The “misgendering” is a manufactured conflict. Drag promised to respect this mod’s wishes, and drag always has. The ban is for nothing.
Be whoever you want to be, but be aware you are doing this to yourself.
Advocating for murder should get you a total ban from every instance already.
Your brand of performative outrage and victimhood isn’t good for communities you want to participate in, regardless.
Let’s just discuss this one issue on this thread. If you want to argue the removal of the nazi-killing comments is justified, go make a different thread. Drag doesn’t care about that. We’re talking about the Ten Forward accusation that drag is a transphobic troll. Unless perhaps you meant to say that drag is a transphobic troll because drag advocates nazi killing? But that doesn’t sound likely.
Your being preemptively removed from communities based on your reputation. That is well deserved. If you want to rules lawyer every ban, your going to be a very busy Dragon Fucker.
Oh no, you were banned from a community for doing something in another community. Whatever will you do apart from move on with your life.
Activity in other communities is irrelevant. This is a shitty R_ddit habit I’d like to see everyone on Lemmy drop.
While I generally agree, this is less about activity in other communities and more about harassing the mod and general reputation. Another person who posted to all the same communities would not be banned.
The mod posted a Stalin-style ideological purge thread. Oh dear.
Careful, this might get you banned from lemmy.ml 😄
OK locking this one as well. Y’all need to behave and try to be more charitable interpreting each other’s words. Realize you don’t need to engage drag if they try to argue with you. If you want them to not reply to you, please tell them to
Disengageor even better, just block them. Likewise if you want to report for sockpuppetry or harassment, please provide some evidence in PMs as there’s nowhere enough to go on in report strings.
