• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 hours ago

    The would in a heartbeat if they thought they could get one Republican vote for doing so.

    Again, don’t lie. The Democratic Party can of course move that far, but they have yet to do so.

    Neoliberals ARE our problem.

    Neoliberalism is the problem. Neoliberals can be tomorrow’s socialists. But we have to put in the work and educate people. My argument already refuted this point, I recommend reading it.

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      Again, don’t lie. The Democratic Party can of course move that far, but they have yet to do so.

      Just wait. Incrementalism will get you there.

      Neoliberalism is the problem. Neoliberals can be tomorrow’s socialists

      You have unfounded faith in neolliberals’ willingness to move any direction other than right.

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        2 hours ago

        If your arguments actually referenced mine in any meaningful way you would know I have addressed these points in this comment section multiple times. As it stands, a casual refutation of your arguments is now sufficient. edit: typo

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          I have addressed these points in this comment section multiple times.

          Yes, with “leverage power we don’t have against people who would rather lose than stop throwing people under the bus.”

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            2 hours ago

            We do have this power. We elected Joe Biden in 2020. Your argument pretends we don’t at the expense of minorities and our ability to prevent the worst outcomes of climate change.

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              We do have this power. We elected Joe Biden in 2020.

              And oh shucky dern, his hands were always conveniently tied. Except when it came time to sell weapons for genocide.

              Your argument pretends we don’t at the expense of minorities and our ability to prevent the worst outcomes of climate change.

              Democrats consider minorities expendable in their unending quest for Republican votes.

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                And oh shucky dern, his hands were always conveniently tied. Except when it came time to sell weapons for genocide.

                You don’t actually care about minorities. Even more people would dead by now under four years of Trump. That’s immaterial to you.

                Democrats consider minorities expendable in their unending quest for Republican votes.

                So do you. Except you want moral victory over the Democrats.