Why are we so sure that Trump supporters are going to start major terrorist attacks and riots etc?
Sure there will be some stragglers here and there but in general they are too stupid and too lazy to even start organising. If January 6th would have been prepared correctly on side of the police force, ie actual riot police present instead of beat cops and doormen, it would have been over in 10 minutes.
If they were truly able to start shit, yesterday’s conviction should have triggered them already.
It really shouldn’t keep Trump out of jail when the fear is that a Walmart fat guy in camo might shoot up a Starbucks.
I’m saying that people in positions of leadership, from judges to attorneys are not going to want to take that chance and be the ones responsible on even the remote chance that there’s any kind of civil unrest. This is regardless of the actual chances of anything happening, it’s about liability not probability.
I don’t understand what you mean. They wouldn’t be liable or responsible if they just did their job.
They aren’t the ones who would instruct people to riot or do terrorism, which would make them liable.
To construct a liability or responsibility out of their duty is what the fascist side would try to do, so I have to assume you’re one of them?
So far I am not under the impression that the government would not do what needs to be done. I think it’s obvious that 99% of Trump supporters are just talk, and mainly talk in anonymity on the internet.
To construct a liability or responsibility out of their duty is what the fascist side would try to do, so I have to assume you’re one of them?
There is seriously something wrong with you and everyone right now that explaining how a thing works defaults someone to the view of “this person must be a fascist” and it’s so screamingly bad faith and performative that it reveals an actual lack of caring for the actual issues exactly like people on the right, you’re no different. It’s all disconnected from reality and losing oneself in emotional responses. Welcome to reactionary land. The only thing missing is the red hats.
Yes trump SHOULD go to jail, I’ve said this but I am also reminding people that this isn’t happening, it won’t happen, and I am explaining WHY it won’t happen. If I’m proved wrong, great… it’s fine, I would like to be proven wrong, but everyone is fucking delusional right now, and this is highly evident by the fact that if you aren’t also delusional, then dipshits on the internet call you a fascist.
I think you lost me. You said Trump will probably not go to jail because the judge has already been lenient with him regarding contempt, you claim more than any other person would be afforded - which might be true but is hard to prove.
I pointed out that it doesn’t automatically follow that the sentencing will also be lenient. It’s not a question of prison, or not.
Then you flew off the handle (imho) by claiming the judge will not give him a harsh sentence (again, not a question of prison or not) because it would make him liable and responsible for terrorist attacks and riots by Trump supporters
And that’s exactly the point of the fascist, which they repeat time and again to intimidate the opponent; That if something happens, then the people who “wronged” Trump would be reponsible. The actual terrorists and rioters and the people therefore wouldn’t be 100% taking the blame, but just part of it or maybe none.
You are agreeing with those people by casually throwing around this idea that attacks and retributions would not be an atrocious, absurd reaction to a criminal getting sentenced, but something that is to be expected. You’re supporting that viewpoint. That’s why I can’t tell if you are a trolling right-winger or a coward or maybe just a dipshit.
Why are we so sure that Trump supporters are going to start major terrorist attacks and riots etc? Sure there will be some stragglers here and there but in general they are too stupid and too lazy to even start organising. If January 6th would have been prepared correctly on side of the police force, ie actual riot police present instead of beat cops and doormen, it would have been over in 10 minutes. If they were truly able to start shit, yesterday’s conviction should have triggered them already. It really shouldn’t keep Trump out of jail when the fear is that a Walmart fat guy in camo might shoot up a Starbucks.
Everyone likes to circlejerk about revolution or whatever, but for 99.9% of people in developed countries, life is too good to put it on the line.
I’m saying that people in positions of leadership, from judges to attorneys are not going to want to take that chance and be the ones responsible on even the remote chance that there’s any kind of civil unrest. This is regardless of the actual chances of anything happening, it’s about liability not probability.
I don’t understand what you mean. They wouldn’t be liable or responsible if they just did their job.
They aren’t the ones who would instruct people to riot or do terrorism, which would make them liable.
To construct a liability or responsibility out of their duty is what the fascist side would try to do, so I have to assume you’re one of them?
So far I am not under the impression that the government would not do what needs to be done. I think it’s obvious that 99% of Trump supporters are just talk, and mainly talk in anonymity on the internet.
There is seriously something wrong with you and everyone right now that explaining how a thing works defaults someone to the view of “this person must be a fascist” and it’s so screamingly bad faith and performative that it reveals an actual lack of caring for the actual issues exactly like people on the right, you’re no different. It’s all disconnected from reality and losing oneself in emotional responses. Welcome to reactionary land. The only thing missing is the red hats.
Yes trump SHOULD go to jail, I’ve said this but I am also reminding people that this isn’t happening, it won’t happen, and I am explaining WHY it won’t happen. If I’m proved wrong, great… it’s fine, I would like to be proven wrong, but everyone is fucking delusional right now, and this is highly evident by the fact that if you aren’t also delusional, then dipshits on the internet call you a fascist.
Get some oxygen.
I think you lost me. You said Trump will probably not go to jail because the judge has already been lenient with him regarding contempt, you claim more than any other person would be afforded - which might be true but is hard to prove. I pointed out that it doesn’t automatically follow that the sentencing will also be lenient. It’s not a question of prison, or not. Then you flew off the handle (imho) by claiming the judge will not give him a harsh sentence (again, not a question of prison or not) because it would make him liable and responsible for terrorist attacks and riots by Trump supporters And that’s exactly the point of the fascist, which they repeat time and again to intimidate the opponent; That if something happens, then the people who “wronged” Trump would be reponsible. The actual terrorists and rioters and the people therefore wouldn’t be 100% taking the blame, but just part of it or maybe none. You are agreeing with those people by casually throwing around this idea that attacks and retributions would not be an atrocious, absurd reaction to a criminal getting sentenced, but something that is to be expected. You’re supporting that viewpoint. That’s why I can’t tell if you are a trolling right-winger or a coward or maybe just a dipshit.