• Optional@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Name one thing the US Government has done in your lifetime that you support.

    One.

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      ACA.

      But it could have been better. Like ALL things done, they are never perfect, they are never everything I want because I’m not the only person in the country, but if it moves the needle in the right direction I support it.

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        And the ACA was a compromise with Republicans. A lot was stripped out by Republican demand, and yet it was still such a massive improvement from the previous system.

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          the ACA was a compromise with Republicans

          That’s the best part; none of the republicans voted for it and they immediately pledged to destroy it.

          It’s a subsidy for health insurers that’s needlessly complicated and still makes healthcare inordinately expensive for most Americans, and required exactly as much buy-in from republicans as free healthcare would have: absolutely none.

          Democrats had a supermajority and a massive mandate from the people, and chose to do what they thought the republicans would like. And then scratched their head when they got blown the fuck out in 2010.

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        NOAA was created by an executive order in 1970 and has never been established in law, despite its critical role.

        Huh!

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        The United States Geological Survey (USGS), founded as the Geological Survey, is an agency of the U.S. Department of the Interior whose work spans the disciplines of biology, geography, geology, and hydrology. The agency was founded on March 3, 1879, to study the landscape of the United States, its natural resources, and the natural hazards that threaten it.

        You’re either 145 or full of shit ;). Also while important initiatives hardly anyone gives a shit about them. They’re things you do when base needs are met and base needs are not being met.

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          While it IS true that you and I are both full of shit, and it is also true that I’m not 145 it is no less true that the USGS does a tonne of important survey work that makes so many other endeavors possible. It’s the sort of thing that governments should do. The ‘name one thing’ question implies that there is nothing that government does or has done that is of value. Which, to employ your terminology is even more full of shit.

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            That’s a long way to say you didn’t actually read what you were replying to, let me help by refocusing you on the point that individual was making:

            Name one thing the US Government has done in your lifetime that you support.

            You’ll note that the things you listed are probably not in your life time. 1970 would put you at a minimum of 54 meaning a 32% chance. Not that I particular care about your age. Just refocusing you on the actual spirit and letter of the statement. And the fact that 1970 being your most recent example should be what concerns you even more.

            You’ll also note I agreed with you that they were important. just not as important as ensuring the quality of life of the average american which has declined economically far too much in the last 6 decades.

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              You’re so adorable when you get snarky. I see you don’t want something during my lifetime, but rather something recent. If you were better at understanding your own thoughts, I bet you’d be better at communicating them.

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                its cute to watch you try to defend your choices as being even remotely relevant. maybe if you were better at reading comprehension you wouldn’t be in this mess.

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                  Have you ever noticed that your phrasing impacts other people’s response to you? Let’s try this, since we’ve already tried snarky, and it isn’t really working all that well, so let’s try something else. Here, I’ll try first: I appreciate that you want to engage in meaningful conversation. And I’ll throw in another, just for fun: You are right that I named federal government agencies, not actions taken by the US government. Tho’ I do have to point out that these agencies do things, and have done things, yes even during my lifetime, and perhaps even yours. Even recently.

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                    And I’d simply shrug and point to my original post to you. Then I’d suggest you put your phrasing in context to the post and the original statement made by the person you responded to.

                    Then I’d kindly suggest you think on how your initial snark to that person might lead to people being equally snarky to you.

                    Then I’d suggest you reflect and realize the fact the only one upset here about the snark is you.

                    Now if you wanted to have a meaningful conversation about those 3 organizations that’s fine. but this isnt the post to do so unless you have some particular claim on make that would be related to helping americans make ends meet.

                    Personally I didn’t care much about your original post or discussing those 3 agencies in particular. I just thought it was an amusing choice of 3 completely irrelevant agencies to the context of the entire thread and decided to save some people the effort of looking up how extremely unrelated they were to the topic at hand.

                    Like you could have done the health department, EPA, FCC, or any number of other agencies that routinely impact american’s day to day economic lives to make your point.

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        The legislative push got a significant boost when Biden, who has said he believes his son Beau’s fatal brain cancer was caused by burn pit exposure, endorsed it at a State of the Union address, giving it the momentum needed to become law.

        Democrats again

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          ug I really wouldn’t bring PACT up. just points out the massive issues with our health care system. its the type of legislation that never should need to be done in the first place. its highly specialized and is caused by the absolute wide spread disfunction they’ve caused health care to be.