• jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 months ago

    I can’t understand why people can’t just mind their own business. Let me rise my children according to what science says, not what your feelings say. What parents want is to keep their children safe, and puberty blockers helps these children avoid hardships later in life.

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      5 months ago

      You can’t understand why people care about others? I guess we don’t need child protective services. Just let people raise children however they want! No parent has ever abused children before! Mind your own business!

      No one has ever used “science” to justify crimes, right? Because as we all know, science has no room for debate and all scientists agree with each other.

      I don’t understand why you’re replying to me with this, it’s not relevant to what I was saying. I actually agree with you but you’re sabotaging your own argument with shit logic.

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        5 months ago

        If they actually cared, they would take the time to understand the actual situation and realize that puberty blockers aren’t experimental or dangerous.

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        5 months ago

        Yes, I can. But this law is the opposite of caring about others. You’re just able to twist anything and disguise it as empathy “for the children” and couldn’t care the least what the children actually want.

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          5 months ago

          Yes, I can.

          Then we’ve answered your question about why people “can’t just mind their own business”.

          You’re just able to twist anything and disguise it as empathy “for the children” and couldn’t care the least what the children actually want.

          If you’re just going to assume that anyone who disagrees with you does so on the basis that they’re just a giant piece of shit out to hurt people for no reason, then there is no discussion to be had, and no progress to be made.

          Maybe open your mind to the possibility that that’s not true, and that people simply have legitimate concerns for children, much like yourself, even if they are misplaced. If you want to actually improve the situation you’ll try to empathize and educate them rather than instantly lambast them and treat them like human garbage.

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            5 months ago

            The difference is that a blanket ban, even a temporary one “just in case”, is actively hurting children. In the UK, trans teenagers need several years of counseling and doctor visits and jumping through hoops before they can actively start transitioning. These drugs help at least halting puberty, otherwise total transition is much harder or impossible. I don’t think these drugs should be easily accessible, but right now it’s already so hard to get, that kids are getting them from the dark web in secret!

            Sure, there are bad parents, and abusive parents. But you can’t justify saving children by hurting other children. I’m not “assuming” anything. Defending this ban is literally hurting children.

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              Again, you are still trying to argue about why the OP topic is bad. I know. I agree. That is not the conversation I am trying to have.

              But you can’t justify saving children by hurting other children…Defending this ban is literally hurting children.

              Other people disagree with you. That is the whole point. They would say the exact same thing about you. That doesn’t make them bad people, it just makes them misinformed.

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        5 months ago

        You’re missing the fact that you could easily replace “science” in their comment with “Facebook”, because those are the “scientists” they’re referring to