I don’t have many examples, but to bring one or two up one was my scuba diving course in Thailand.
The dive instructor showed everything and we copied him in a pool. And everytime we had to do all the things I just looked bad.
Another example was climbing. They show how to tie the knot to harness, everyone successfully manages to tie the knot and I am standing their like an idi**.
The thing is what I observed is that if I have time to do things on my own and no pressure I seem to do “okay” and once I can do it I do it blind.
Anyone else experience this? What can I do? I am at a point I am afraid to learn new things because of failing infront of others.
So…
- You want to learn new things and now you are getting discouraged.
Why you wanted to learn new things? Was it adventure calling, random idea, someone gave you some advice/ideas or you were great in your imagination at them before even starting? Whatever it was, learning new things can be equally great and hard.
- You seem to be failing at new things.
This is how learning works. Some people fail more and harder, or need more explanations, or more trial and error until the “thing” clicks in their head.
Did I miss anything? There is not enough information but let me shoot in the dark:
- The thing with diving or climbing, was it a one and done thing or do you continue doing it anyhow?
Why I am asking? There is quite a big difference in “I want to learn new things”, “I want to try/test new things”, “I am bored and just wanna do something” and “I am seeking for a (new) lifelong passion/hobby” or even harder “I want to get really good at X”… Depending on what your actual need is, there is plenty of possibilities why the process and effects are not satisfying for you.
- What does “looked bad” mean? Was it a comment from your instructor, or someone from the group gave you a weird look or laughed? Or you had it recorded and you compared your technique to others?
Sounds a little like some form of stage-fright, you can process the instructions and get what the instructor is saying but the problem begins during the “performance” part? Following the instructions and so on? This is quite common, especially during group classes with random people you don’t know. They can be quite chaotic and overstimulating… There is not much you can do to avoid it, but there is a lot you can do to work through it.
- Part about “no pressure”
Maybe a form of group classes is too much and just not for you at the beginning — maybe one on one approach would suit your needs better?
There are so many angles to approach this subject…
You don’t understand it is all, there’s nothing wrong with that. We’re just not absorbing it in the same way is all, and in my experience it depends on the thing being tried, with it being our way of not looking too much into things, which is the opposite issue. Your examples are understandably difficult anyways, I can’t even swim if that counts as a slow learning issue.
When trying new things, we all feel unsure. The next time you plan something new, you could watch some videos so that you have a bit of framework for the activity.
Maybe you’re more introverted and tend towards learning in an autodidactic way?
Not being like all the other people isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Yes, it’s difficult to be different. But we should embrace being human and diverse. Everyone learns at their own pace. Some people learn better by watching and imitating, some people like to understand things down to the core and can’t just “do this and do that and you’re done.” And there are different learning styles anyways: Auditory, Visual, Tactile, …
I just wanted to say you’re not alone with that. I also regularly fail to remember dancing steps, when someone shows me how to assemble furniture or do some task. I can’t for the life of me remember driving directions. I’d much rather get handed an instruction manual and I can read it at my own pace. Everytime I get what I need and what matches my learning type, I can excel at things, so it’s not a lack of intelligence.
And it works, too if you’re taught 1 on 1. So you can ask your “instructor” to slow down or speed up things you already know. It’s just difficult in group scenarios. And I don’t think there is a way around speaking up and letting them show it to you once more. But I think most people should theoretically be able to relate. Other people struggled in maths in school and had things explained to them over and over again, which was super boring to me. But we all grasp different concepts in different amounts of time and we sometimes need to be taught in the way that is right for us individually.
And a last word to climbing: Getting it almost immediately isn’t the important part of the knot. The important part is that you never fail to do it correct in the years to come. Where I learned climbing they hand you a scrap piece of old rope and you can practice at home. And the week after you need to demonstrate that you’re able to do the knot and check it for correctness. I’ve been with the (boy) scouts for years, so I could already tie the knot perfectly.
(Edit: “Learning style theories have been criticized by many scholars and researchers. Some psychologists and neuroscientists have questioned the scientific basis for separating out students based on learning style. […] Many educational psychologists have shown that there is little evidence for the efficacy of most learning style models, and furthermore, that the models often rest on dubious theoretical grounds.” Source: Wikipedia)
Learning styles are educational astrology. They have no basis in science or paedagogy.
Thanks for enlighting me. I have to fact check this, but occasionally I also consume what they tell in random business coaching without questioning it.
Edit: Fact checked. And learned something today. Thx.
Building on your last point, it could be that others were also already somewhat familiar. Perhaps those learning to scuba dive with OP have experience swimming to the bottom of a pool or have gone snorkeling. It’s unlikely that people would go out of their ways to bring that up to the entire group.
Just remember that people who never fail also do not know what to do in the case of a mishap.
Do you maybe have ADHD or anxiety? That would be a reason for it
Sounds a like a combination of fear of failure and anxiety around social settings. Failure should be, and usually is, a part of learning, which is something I’m working on internalizing for myself 😅 but it sounds like you’re also putting a lot of pressure on yourself not to make any mistakes, which is unrealistic and also sets you up for immediate failure if you get into your own head about it.
Generally the answer to any fear related issues is exposure. If that idea is horrifying then its especially important, and you’ll need to start small. But letting yourself experience the source of fear enough times for your anxiety to go up, observe the way it comes back down and that you’re okay, and you start to feel safer in that kind of experience
But if you do too much at once you’ll often make the problem worse. If you’ve got good friends you can ask, maybe share what you’re having a hard time with, and see if y’all can learn origami together or something with people you consider safe. Feel out the anxiety, and when you fail, notice that you’re stjll okay :)
Investigating fear of failure and exposure therapy online may yeild helpful that really helps with perspective and practical approaches to dealing with what you’re facing
Sending love and hugs, thats a crap experience
One thing that helped me is to imagine the worst, best, and likely scenarios to occur. Like tying a knot. Worst: I cannot do it, everyone there laughs at me and the instructor says I am the dumbest person they’ve ever seen. Pretty unrealistic. Best: I do it perfectly the first time, help everyone else, and they all think I am some sort of genius. Likely: it probably takes me a few times, but I’m certainly not the worst the instructor has seen. Everyone else takes one or two tries and mostly sympathizes that the knot isn’t trivial to learn.
Reminding myself that I am not the worst ______ a professional has ever seen really helps a lot. I’m usually pretty far down there, but like. At least I’m not the actual worst.
Worst: You tie the knot, go climbing, fall down, knot doesn’t hold, you go to hospital or die.
That’s not realistic. It’s a beginner class, they aren’t going to take you on something dangerous and make you tie the knots holding yourself on the first day.
In my personal experience, if I learn it wrong first, then I will keep that mistake. That is why learning it right first is so important to me, and I can only do that in peace, without disruptions from bystanders.
I’m sometimes like this too. Everyone learns differently. Different ways, different speeds. A common example is not understanding some math concept, until someone explains it differently and suddenly it clicks. Don’t be afraid to speak up when you aren’t understanding something, or just need more practice. Also, depending on the class, ask if you can get some materials or resources in advance so you can preview them on your own.
Actually, it’s the same for me.
It is because others put up a lot of pressure to “get it immediately”. I’m not stupid (I swear) but it takes me like a solid 2 minutes sometimes to understand something. Others expect me to get it in 5-10 seconds.
