• z00s@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “American companies are scared of the open market when it works against them, yet refuse to make better products”

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      6 months ago

      There is a good reason why American companies are scared. It almost never works out for them. Sony vs Zenith TVs is a great example about how a foreign company improved on a technology (color tv) and made zenith look like a stingy dinosaur overnight. Instead of selling color TV’s zenith just doubled down and sold cheaper shittier TV’s. By the time color was standard, their reputation was ruined and no one wanted a Zenith when Sony was the best. Sony however wouldn’t have been able to get into the market without help from zenith in the first place.

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        6 months ago

        They should stop choosing the “double down on making products shittier part”.

        You could’ve been telling the story of the 80s automotive industry. Or really any American manufacturer.

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      The issue was that Chinese EVs are ahead of Western EVs due to aggressive subsidy and investment by the Chinese government to get ahead. So the market has been distorted which is what was “scary” according to the quite in the article that spawned the headline.

      Having said that, I’m not sure I believe that Chinese EVs will be better quality. They may be cheaper and they may even have technically advanced but from experience of other Chinese products, quality is not a word I’d associate with them.

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        6 months ago

        The US government can do the same, and they do bailouts for companies often too. Isn’t that also meddling in the free market? Why didn’t the US government incentivize EV then?

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          6 months ago

          One of the ways they have are through CAFE credits - incentives for higher fuel efficiency and electric vehicles, since at least 2012. However the credits are tradeable, so legacy manufacturers instead bought credits from Tesla, and other EV manufacturers

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        due to aggressive subsidy and investment by the Chinese government

        yes. similar to a lot of western products.

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        Americans aren’t going to care about quality that much if their monthly payment is only $200. As long as a Chinese EV is reliable long enough to make it’s total cost of ownership much lower than American EVs or ICEs they will line up to buy them.

        The American market has been desperate for a cheap and reliable car, a role Japanese automakers used to fill, and both US and Japanese makers know it.

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        6 months ago

        All the best and worst shit you own is made in China. If you don’t want cheap shit don’t buy cheap shit, but these cars are really nice and inexpensive.

        These cars are in tons of countries outside of China and they are very well received.

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          I agree with you. China is manufacturing cheap products because that’s what (a lot of) consumers want as well. They also make expensive quality products, too. I have friends who like to rag on Made In China products but they love the quality of their iPhones which are just Designed in California.

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        6 months ago

        American cars have their own subsidies as well. I mean the government bailed them out of dying several years ago.

        We shouldn’t have bailed them out. We should have bought a public controlling interest in them.

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          Harleys are so ridiculously overpriced it’s hard to believe tariffs on the competition would make any difference