• over_clox@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The English language is already awkward enough, but it would help if the title didn’t have a double negative.

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          No it isn’t, that’s like saying, “Don’t feel sad” is a double negative

          A double negative is something like, “Don’t not do that”

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            Honestly, I’m reading it as a triple negative. I wasn’t planning on nitpicking it, but “force through” falls under the negative category for me.

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              I feel like you’re still thinking of the wrong kind of “negative”. It has multiple meanings, in this case, a synonym of “no”.

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                I think almost all articles like this are deliberately written in a confusing manner. 60 to 31?

                Anti … Ban …?

                60 whats to 31 whats?

                Yes, after reading things over twice, I gather 60 republicans to 31 democrats, or something like that, but hell why do political articles have to be written in such a confusing way?

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                  It’s a pretty standard way to write 60 votes for to 31 votes against, but again, since your comment has negative votes means you actually understood that. Negations, man. How do they work?

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                Also, double negative…

                Anti-trans ban? That’s a double negative, when cancelling our the negatives, that means it’s pro-trans.

                Sorry but I think with the mathematical part of my brain. Throw two negatives into a sentence and they cancel out and become a positive.

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                  mathematical part of my brain

                  There’s no such thing. It’s just a gooey mass of billions of randomly firing neurons that can coalesce into patterns of signals and “brute force” answers to math problems. We are not logic machines with well defined mechanisms of functionality like a computer. We just fake it very well. That’s why we can make mistakes. A well built computer does not make mistakes.

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                  Anti-trans works as an adjective in this sentence, so it is a ban that is anti-trans in nature, not a ban of anti-trans behaviour.

                  Your commiting a logical falacy believing that a double negative automatically means the same as no negative. “You are not allowed to not run” doesn’t mean that you are merely allowed to run, it means you must run.

                  Buuut again, I assume your logic means the downvotes to your comment acts like a negation to your comment and so I’m not sure what you meant.

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                    the first doesn’t negate the second, it describes it. it is a ban which is anti-trans or transphobic. this is not a double negative!