• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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    5 months ago

    One was generically anti-genocide, one was anti-genocide in the context of the Palestinian genocide, namely, critiquing the idea that just because LGBT rights amongst a people being genocided are less than stellar doesn’t mean that genociding them is okay or should be tolerated, even by LGBT folk.

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            No war in Ba Sing Se. Pay no heed to all the photos of starving children and bombed aid workers, nothing to see here

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                5 months ago

                It’s actually exceedingly easy to criticize Israel while acknowledging the truth that Hamas is a mafia-like oppressive terrorist organization.

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                    You’re getting downvoted because you’re spewing hateful rhetoric and you are completely and utterly factually wrong from the very first concept that you had about this entire situation and nothing that you can say now can change that.

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                    (wich is technically possible but would probably result in way more casualtys because hamas attacks fleeing civilians)

                    You do realize that Hamas are shithead terrorists, not Saturday morning cartoon villains, right?

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        Theres something that could be described as a genocide, but its in self defense from hamas. I dont know if its porportional or okay, but Israel is trying to genocide Hamas, in response to Hamas trying to genocide Israel.

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            And Israel isn’t doing genocide, they are just a little too reckless,

            Literal genocidal rhetoric from Israel’s ruling government as they kill 1 out of every 100 Gazans alive before the start of the war.

            Pretty sure they passed ‘reckless’ a while ago.

            nobody is giving a F about turkey turning Syria and the region Kurdistan into wastelands because they want to eradicate the people there.

            This may come as a shock, but discussions of Turkish attempts at genocide and ethnic cleansing of Kurds are actually quite a big deal amongst people who follow international politics.

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                You gotta need to source that claims, and by source i don’t want to see you taking the numbers of the hamas propaganda ministry or their Gaza health ministry, and i also don’t want to see any sources just repeating those numbers.

                Is the IDF acceptable as a source? The IDF claimed 10-12,000 ‘fighters’ killed and a ~50% civilian casualty ratio - meaning by their own estimates, back in February, they’d killed 20-24,000 Gazans - or about 1-in-100 of the prewar Gazan population.

                You are also kinda silent about the fact that Israel is literally self defending in a war not started by them.

                I don’t give a fuck who started it. Genocide still isn’t an acceptable response. There’s a reason why support for Israel started high after Oct 7 and plummeted in the following months. And it’s not because everyone decided antisemitism was going to be the next hot thing.

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                    But you putting Fighters as in Terrorists in quotes tells a story of its own.

                    The story it tells is that Israeli claims of accurate identification of Hamas militants is questionable at best.