• ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      the issue is ‘communism left’, ‘capitalism right’, which are economic policies.

      which is separate from socially liberal/left.

      • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
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        The government interferes with the economy to influence our behavior, so economies are inherently tied to politics. Eg giving a tax break if you have a child, or applying tariffs to imported goods. Or even more broadly, globalization and colonialism.

        The way each political party might interfere with each economic system and use it to regulate the people can be different as well. Theoretically, communism is anarchist in nature and moneyless, so the economic system would change the government, and the government would change the economic system.

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        4 months ago

        I already know that. I’m telling you that you’re wrong, if we achieved communism, conservatism wouldn’t become leftwing or progressive or non-traditional.

        Is feudalism left wing? Is it progressive? If someone advocated for us returning to serfdom instead of capitalism, are they being progressive? Are they left wing?

        Modern conservatism would look as ridiculous as advocating for feudalism in a capitalist society. If communism was achieved, there would be some other hypothetical political ideology that would be demanding progress, which would be the new left wing.

        Which is good, we are meant to grow as a society.

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              Do you even speak English? It’s the people who want to keep things the way they are who are conservative and traditional.

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                4 months ago

                I don’t appreciate the verbal abuse. I obviously am speaking to you clearly.

                people who want to keep things the way they are who are conservative and traditional.

                Yes, OR they advocate for regression (aka Make America Great AGAIN), and in a future communist society, conservatives by today’s standard would be advocating for things to regress. To today’s standards. Which is like advocating for a return to feudalism by modern standards. How is this hard for you to understand?

                Change itself is not inherently leftist. A change towards traditional or historical values (eg reversing Roe V Wade) isn’t leftist or progressive; it’s regressive. That’s right wing.

                If an Amish person ran for office and wanted us all to give up electricity and to return to life as it was in the 1600s, they would not be leftwing. They would be considered right wing conservative. Advocating for policies from the past makes you regressive and conservative, not progressive and leftist.