• beardown@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Sure. Which leaves us with democrats. Who are the ones currently arming and funding a genocide

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      6 months ago

      So you don’t want Biden, but you don’t want Trump either, but you can’t have it both ways. No matter if you turn out to vote or not, you are getting one of those two choices. That’s a fact. We’re stuck in the Prisoner’s Dilemma Election, and it’s time to decide if we’re going to play the game to win or not.

      There’s far more at stake this year than just the fate of Gaza, but shortsightedness is going to kill us.

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          6 months ago

          How is this minimizing genocide? I’ve acknowledged that it’s a serious problem.

          What’s your solution?

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            6 months ago

            Saying that there’s far more at stake than an ongoing genocide minimizes genocide.

            My solution is to protest as loudly as possible and donate my time, money, and energy to stopping genocide, and not waste anyone’s time by trying to inhumanly minimize genocide.

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              6 months ago

              More than one thing can be true at the same time. Stopping the genocide in Gaza is important. Stopping the rise of fascism in America is important. Stopping the erosion of civil liberties in America is important. Minimizing genocide would be me saying “It’s not that bad”, which I don’t believe is true. It is that bad. I just disagree with the apparent strategy that the nascent leftists have embraced, which is to cut off the nose to spite the face, a strategy that will ultimately end up with a continuation of the status quo at best and risks a rapid acceleration of all of the problems I mentioned above in the worst case scenario.

              By all means, protest and donate your money and time to the effort. That seems to be making an impact to some degree.

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                6 months ago

                None of that is going to stop by voting for Biden, lol. We are seeing a rise in fascism, an erosion of civil liberties, and genocide, under Biden. Yes, Trump would probably be worse on some of these aspects, or even all, but we are already well beyond what should be unacceptable.

                Protesting and donating is doing far more for gazans than sucking up to Biden and minimizing his atrocities ever will, and I say that as someone that will likely still vote for him.

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                  6 months ago

                  We are seeing a rise in fascism, an erosion of civil liberties, and genocide, under Biden.

                  Can you give me some examples of fascist behavior or civil liberty erosion directly caused by Biden’s policies?

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    6 months ago

                    Sure.

                    “Order must prevail” - Biden to protestors calling him out for genocide. Violent crackdowns on student protestors.

                    Allowing Roe V Wade to be overturned and no plan to reinstate abortion protections. Refusing to pack the courts or play hardball, just letting everything increasingly slip away.

                    Literal genocide actively funded by Biden.

                    This is well beyond the point of no return. If Biden had an R next to his name with the same amount of fascism, Blue MAGA might actually give a damn about the lives of Palestinians, instead of trying to pretend Biden is some great hero and shitting on protestors for daring to call him out.