No, that undecided group does not exist, this election clearly demonstrated that.

That’s what you wrote. You are backtracking on that statement now?

We know that ~16 million people didn’t vote this time vs 2020. We know that around 60% of all possible voters participated in 2020. We don’t know what that ~50-60% in (2024) actually want because they couldn’t be convinced to decide. That is the definition of undecided. That is literally ~50% of registered voting people who left the choice undecided. A group you claim to be non-existent.

If they wanted to protest vote, they should and could have en masse voted for ‘Gaza Freedom’ or ‘No Fascism’ or any coordinated name as a write-in.

Several parties suggested it during their primaries. I can’t find evidence of it occurring in those primaries.

At least 12 states have no registration requirement for their write-in votes on final elections. Most don’t require it on primaries.

That didn’t happen or wasn’t reported. The evidence suggests the former.

I’d be more accepting of your claim if the facts actually supported your narrative.

The numbers show that only about 60% of people who can vote actually decided.

40% didn’t decide even after considering.

Beyond that there’s still 40% of the population who didn’t even decide to consider voting.

Which group of undecided voting eligible citizens do you claim as non-existent?

You didn’t say exactly what I said.

Your initial statement was in disagreement with the statement regarding undecided voters.

Apologies, I didn’t figure the math right. ~16 million.

I disagree.

Your first statement was that an undecided voter group didn’t exist.

That’s what I’m responding to.

Undecided did exist as ~16 million fewer votes were cast. Those could be protest votes could be voter roll purges…

We don’t know what they’ve decided because they didn’t decide in a way that is counted.

That is all.

They can claim whatever reason they want. They abdicated their voices this time. Hope they’re able to use them again.

I’m sure your protest vote will be heard by Trump and the senseless murder.

Y’all literally are like I don’t care the other guy wants to expel all Muslims (& anyone they don’t like) from the country and accelerate the genocide - she’s not breaking the law to stop another country who’s committing murder on the taxpayer dollar.

She’s not screaming exactly what I want to hear. I believe the president controls the whole world.

Therefore I choose to accelerate the genocide from someone who wants muslims and people associated with that skin color out of the country, because what matters to me is how quickly the yahoos finish the job.

That’s your argument right now.

Weave harder, you’re almost convincing folks you actually understand and aren’t in favor of Gazan eradication.

Your cake day, aka account origination date, is very recent. You claim you warned folks. You haven’t been around on here long enough to do that at all.

Nice contradictory paragraphs. I only engaged with you to determine which flag you’re waving. It’s clearly been the one I called you on to begin with.

Paraphrasing you for anyone who doesn’t want to read a bunch of half recalled (mis)information:

I won’t do any homework to discuss my point. Believe me bro, because I totally said so.

Do your homework to figure out what my weave actually means. I’m not backing up any of my allegations with facts, I don’t believe it’s worth the time. I told you to do something.

Ok. What solution do you have that will work?

Please, elaborate on a working solution.

Do you have anything realistic that can change the results of citizens united vs FEC’s ruling?

You said you warned us, but your cake day is not old enough to account for that. You’re lying or you’ve been banned for being what you are.

I’m discussing facts with a bad faith actor. I’m looking for your true colors.

Yes please, tell us how marxists and leninists will save humanity and not be the same as it ever was and always has been.

Yeah, you’re acting in bad faith here too.

The numbers of votes clearly show over 24 million people sat out 2024 vs 2020.

Undecided doesn’t mean they’ll make a decision on voting day.

I know of several people who willingly sat out because the state they’re in was always decided and they didn’t feel it would matter.

So you don’t acknowledge when you’re wrong, and will continue to move goalposts. You’re taking a defensive posture.

It’s becoming clear now.

You’re a bad faith actor.

I agree, optics matter to the public and media.

The media has sane washed an insane old person, while negatively spinning or outright ignoring any Biden accomplishment.

The fact is, in this system, we’re trying to convince a small group of undecided folks in a few swing states to get involved and make a choice.

The majority of the public is too tired and busy to bother to review the facts, and happy to watch an opinion of the matter - whether it’s true or not.

If it fits into their world-view there’s no need to challenge it.

I’m partially agreeing, I want to point out that they did get 7 days allotted.

Not all 7 of those are from sick time, so you’ve got a point.

I find it a reach to say the administration gets no credit when it’s definitely been assigned to them on multiple fronts for the effort.

Congress was involved here too. Do you think our president should be a despot?

Were you directly involved in negotiations?

The people who were directly involved, gave the Biden administration credit for an assist.

Not trying to be rude, the media cycle buried that result.

The unions got the sick leave, after the media reported the strike ended without it.

It was accomplished a couple weeks later, if I recall correctly.

https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

If you’re asking in good faith… Most of lemmy.ml is a tankie echo chamber that silences or outright bans any dissenting discussion.

Try bringing up the facts surrounding Russia, China, Cuba, or North Korea…

Only lies and good vibes for tankies are permitted.

Great; more extended sequence CGI montages, coming to your nearest IMAX theater.

I’m good after 2 worm sessions. Thanks.

For non-stickiness though it’s basically on the tolerable end - put oil in it and most stuff will slide around but sometimes you don’t want too much oil so its a trade off

Not sure if you are saying the non-stick surface of a seasoned (carbon steel or) cast iron pan is inferior to PFAS options, that’s how I’m responding below.

Speaking from experience, I’ve screwed up seasoning pans before I got it what I’d call right.

A poorly seasoned polymerized surface on any metal (cast iron, carbon steel, stainless steel, or titanium) will always fair poorly, though more healthy than teflon style pans.

A properly seasoned polymerized surface on any smooth metal is easily on par or superior (regarding stickiness) with non-stick PFAS or metalized ceramic.

It absolutely requires minimal oiling when properly seasoned. I absolutely use less oil in my carbon steel pans than I would with ‘non-stick’ pans.

Another issue I see frequently is putting food into a pan that is too cold.

I think stainless steel is a great option in its own right - it’s not really non stick but it can be made tolerable with oil and can be scrubbed back to condition and thrown in the dishwasher.

Stainless steel can be non-stick using either the Leidenfrost effect or seasoning/oil polymerization. I do like being able to put my dishes through the auto-wash. My carbon steel and cast iron surfaces being the exception.

I sometimes coat my cast iron pan in oil, but more often than not I don’t.

I’m telling you what my experience is. I have pans that have a self healing non-stick surface. I don’t put soap on my cast iron or carbon steel unless planning to re-season. I boil water and may agitate it with salt if something sugary stays stuck to the surface. The flame/heat sterilizes, and the water+salt granules removes particulate.

I can fry an egg with less than a light spray of oil and produce a picture perfect egg consistently.

I’m in process of removing all of our PFAS or newer titanium ceramic gear due to it failing from scraping or flaking.

I am not eating out of your kitchen, not trying to tell you how to manage the tools. Offering suggestions, I feel could make life easier for you.

If it works for you, and you’re happy - carry on.

It seems obvious you purchase equipment for restaurants. /s

Quite a hot take there. You ignored carbon steel in the conversation.

A large number of restaurants use rolled carbon steel or cast iron for searing and shallow frying.

I’ve heard from several sources that the iron is supposed to be good for the diet. I love my carbon steel and cast iron kitchenware. All of the studies I’ve seen show it as a superior option to PFAS cookware and will still outlast the latest ceramic options. I have a very non-stick carbon steel pan and griddle from avocado oil seasoning.

You didn’t mention that you’re oiling it after drying it. It’s recommended that you lightly oil the surface upon storage.

One Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6jqcYFdFs

Mostly agree. I want to add, there are ways to make your stainless steel produce a non-stick effect.

Very similar to the method used to produce a non-stick surface on carbon steel, cast iron, and other heated cooking surfaces. Essentially you apply a light coat of oil and created a polymerized surface on the pan.

One source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXEt-fhyCis

Edit: Another Source (Leidenfrost effect): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUwaOnCd1h0

They’re delving into the religious side of it in the reply to you. It is exactly like self delivering catholic guilt.

Thanks for the source. I don’t expect I’ll switch to the diet soon, I’m open. The subsidized protein is really tasty, I’m not in favor of all factory farming. Some factory farms aren’t as bad as you think. I have family that farms and many of my friends are family farmers.

Maybe you’re in an area with greedy farmers or near something like Tyson.

I buy local when I’m able. Unable to control for everything. Same as any vegan thinking that their fertilizer is all vegan.

Provided Source: Trust me bro.