He is ruining the Kevin Roberts name.

The comment you were replying to

This omission makes me wonder if they mean Tesla specifically or just using it as an euphemism for everything its overlord touches.

Your comment stated, “They were eroding democracy…”

If I misread your implication, apologies, but the obvious question follows: If not Tesla, who is “they” in that context?

something something pots n kettles something something

Per capita is the only relevant stat here and its all over the place.

Although the community of Angoon received a $90,000 settlement from the Department of the Interior in 1973…

Approximately $638,000 now, after inflation. Do with that knowledge what you will. (I recommend being somewhat upset.)

The first Tesla car came out in 2008. Elon was in charge at that point. He was its largest shareholder as of 2004, and it was founded as of 2003. Pretty sure it wasn’t eroding anything in those first 4 carless years.

i mean, hows he gonna run from jail? Or the grave more likely

Does the article state that he was convicted of a serious threat and prove any sort of planning toward implementation?

It states he was arrested under allegations of it and multiple weapons were found. Pretty damn good indicator. To remind you: If the Appalachee guy (whos actions prompted the numerous threats the cop was following up on) had gotten arrested in a similar way multiple people would still be alive right now.

being accused is different from being found guilty

Your point?

being found guilty of a threat is different from being found guilty of a threat and attempting to carry it out

So you agree we should get them for threats or threats with follow through. Glad to hear you’ve conceded the argument.

being found guilty and facing legal consequences is different from being publicly named for doing so

Ok, and?

he’s an effing kid

So were the Columbine guys. Apparently being underage doesn’t stop someone from shooting up a school. I can pull up more underage shooters, I’m sure you can too. The, “Oh its a kid” thing doesn’t hold water.

The title of this thread isn’t

Even if he did it, we have no idea whether it was serious

Thats a point you made, and are now refusing to address. Twice now.

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Its a point you brought up and it warrants addressing.

IIRC the issue with that was super janky hitboxes

Even if he did it, we have no idea whether it was serious

So we shouldn’t take threats of shootings or bomb threats seriously now?

Wow. Just… wow.

Considering his initial (and ongoing, unless the cloudflare stuff got fixed) fuckery, a lack of faith is understandable

deprive a potential shooter of their publicity

Remove a potential shooter from the field you mean?

let an innocent accused resume their lives

Or let potential shooters know they aren’t being ignored until they start blasting.

allow someone in a crisis more opportunity to get treatment/recover without making it worse

Jail can also provide treatment, without the possibility of them snapping and murdering people. Seems reasonable to me.

let the sheriff enact spiteful revenge against someone not convicted

Identifying threats to society is “spiteful revenge” Do you think we should have referred to him as O.B.L. instead of Osama Bin Laden because he wasn’t convicted yet to keep his anonymity? That it was “spiteful revenge” to let folks know who he was? Cmon now.

ruin the life of an accused innocent

or stop a copycat killer.

force someone in a crisis into a more desperate state

who will be locked up and thus unable to act on those urges.

help a perpetrator achieve notoriety

Least sensible of the lot. They’ll be notorious for making threats and going to jail. Much preferrable to murder and jail.

If a nonviable and a viable solution are presented, yes that is how things work. You yourself admitted the solution you presented wouldn’t work. May as well have suggested portable force fields. At least that sounds cool.

A viable solution … that’ll never happen.

So not viable. Okay.

As if lawyers won’t line up for the payday? C’mon now.

Also, in the current day and age, kids aren’t randomly showing off their weapon collections that include knives and swords, because, obviously, the whole school shooter thing exists.

Lastly, what solution do you think is viable? I don’t think a situation like this

[Chitwood’s] department dealt with 54 threats in a 12-hour period following the killings of two students and two teachers at Apalachee high school.

Is tenable. Do you?

They can enjoy possibly multiple large piles of money off lawsuits. Unlikely in the case noted in the article though-

In the video, which had more than 270,000 views on Facebook as of Monday afternoon, the camera pans across a conference table covered in airsoft guns, pistols, fake ammunition, knives and swords that law enforcement officers claim the boy was “showing off” to other students.

“He doesn’t need to parade this kid, this 11-year-old child, in front of a camera to achieve his purpose. Just do traditional things – arresting, charging – that don’t add this layer of shaming, embarrassing, humiliating and traumatizing.”

And whats your solution? This isn’t like… throwing a rock through a window or graffiti tagging a wall. Consequences need to be swift, decisive, and ensure no one gets any ideas to copycat them.