Yeah you’re right. It’s funny that you answer now because I just read about what they plan to do here. It’s pretty disappointing.

I don’t know if I’ll be continuing with Kubuntu or any Ubuntu based distro at this point.

I’ve played around with OpenSuse Tumbleweed today and it looks rock solid. The YaST app looks like it has a lot of extra configs.

Fedora KDE looks like a good alternative also. But people expressed some frustration about installing 3rd party codecs and such. I think OpenSuse has an option to easily install those.

I can’t believe I’m considering moving away from Ubuntu after 20 years…

I can see the use cases for these Universal Blue based distros. They look like fun. But I really don’t see the appeal in my case.

I’ll check them out still. I’m curious about how they operate. Thanks for the suggestions!

Yeah, but I did a bit more reading on it and its flaw is that it only has one maintainer. This is bad for long term support. I think I’ll stick with something more mainstream after all.

Thanks, but if I’m going to use a Debian based OS, I might as well stick with one that mainstream, is backed by a company and has a large user community with a big knowledge base. So might as well use Ubuntu.

It’s an immutable OS. That’s not what I’m looking for. I find it too restrictive. Plus it comes loaded with way too much gaming software. I don’t need all that stuff. I’d rather install as I need.

I was thinking more of Frank Reynolds from It’s Always Sunny.

Yeah, actually I think I might have had those two mixed up. I think what I meant was Endeavour.

Yeah, I used it for work once when I worked at Xandros back in 2008.

It’s like Ubuntu, minus the quality of life customizations. Might as well stick with an Ubuntu flavor.

I’ve NEVER heard of it. Based on the PiSi packaging system developed for Pardus OS, a Linux distro developed by Turkey? Wow ok.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I’ll stick to something more mainstream.

Thanks but no thanks. There’s a lot of fringe Arch based distros out there with very little amount of support an no community and that’s specifically what I don’t want had you bothered to read. Though I can’t blame you. That’s a long ass post.

He’s probably talking about DE configs which can pretty much be the same from one distro to another. If I use KDE on Arch or Kubuntu or Fedora or whatever, I can have the same experience on all of them.

EDIT: I misread their comment. Storing configs in a git repo is practical. Stuff like VIM configs, bash scripts and some other text based configs that you have to perfect over time.

Yeah. That seems to be a lot of people’s experiences. Though many are having really positive experiences with Mint. Maybe go back to that distro?

Ubuntu sucks because of the Gnome desktop. The vanilla Gnome is absolutely unusable. Ubuntu managed to add extensions that made it somewhat decent. But I absolutely hate the UI. I hate the window title bars that are super thick and riddled with buttons and functionalities. It’s awful. I do like how the configs are simple though. It’s hard to break. But I’m sticking to KDE Plasma. However, even that desktop environment has its flaws. You open the settings and you have way too many customisations available and as soon as you mess around with them a bit sometimes the desktop crashes or gets borked. As long as you leave it pretty much vanilla you’ll be fine.

Oh yeah! I haven’t really thought about this. The only MS game I ever bought was Forza Horizon 4 to practice left-side driving before a trip to Scotland. Hahahahaha!

So you’re saying it won’t work in Linux?

True. I’ve used it before. Since it’s Ubuntu based, I ended up using Ubuntu MATE over Linux Mint and Ubuntu had a MATE flavor already. I feel the looks are a little outdated. But I’ll give it another shot in a VM with the Cinnamon desktop to try it out. Maybe I’ll be surprised.

Yeah, but it’s supported by a very small team. I don’t think that’ll do it for long term support. I intend to use it for the next 10 years until I buy a new PC. That’s why I’m probably going to drop Nobara after all. (It’s like, ONE guy behind the distro.)

Thanks. I understand your point of view but I want to have the liberty of changing system configs on the fly. I also tried it in a VM and found that it was a bit bloated with too much stuff OOTB. Might be nice for a gaming console, but I don’t think I need all of that.

One thing about OpenSuse Tumbleweed is I’m afraid I might have trouble finding some of the software I need in their repos and it might be a pain in the butt to manage? Then again I never used an OpenSuse based distro so. Maybe I oughta try it out in a VM first.

I’ve been considering Nobara for my gaming PC as basically a better Fedora, but I’m afraid of projects with so few people taking care of them fizzling out in a couple years, and it’s not as simple as just replacing it with base Fedora if that happens.

Yeah. Doing a bit more digging after I posted this, that’s what I found out also. It’s only maintained by one guy??? That doesn’t sound too good. Also, reading some Reddit posts, it looks like it ain’t all that great actually. People are recommending using more mainstream distributions instead of “fringe distros”.

Also, a few in this thread also advised against installing Manjaro due to breakage.

Yeah, I think I’ll just stick with Kubuntu. I’m also considering Ubuntu Budgie. The desktop looks very clean and simple and not too complex. This is what I loved about Gnome. The amount of personalization isn’t excessive to a point you can break your DE, which is something I find KDE Plasma to be guilty of. But Budgie isn’t widely used so it’ll be harder to find support if something breaks. I might just add the DE on the side alongside KDE Plasma.

So bottom line: Kubuntu will probably be my first choice.

I agree about the Snaps. But isn’t it kind of the same deal with Flatpaks? The whole objective is to deliver the application with all its dependencies packaged in, and running in a pseudo fenced environment. So of course it will take up more storage space. The speed issue is because some of these are compressed to take up less space. It’s a compromise.

Worst case, you can disable snaps easily. But, I’ve found using Snaps and Flakpaks somewhat easier, especially for when it comes to removing the software. I dunno. I might stick with Kubuntu or even Ubuntu Budgie. (Still testing some distros out in a VM.)

Yeah, but there’s been occasions where I had to add repos to my /etc/apt/sources.list for example, or tweak my Grub config to resolve problems, or sometimes I want to change some configs and edit some files in /etc/. And besides, I like having the extra flexibility to tweak my system if I want to.

I might install it on a MS Surface Pro though. Not sure it supports the hardware as well as Ubuntu though. There’s special kernels you can download with Surface-specific modules.

Interesting!