Out of curiosity, why exactly do you not have a choice in not running systemd? Is it company policy / are they clients’ machines?

I’m more of a runit guy, but I started using Alpine recently, and I have to say, openrc is also pretty nice!

Fstab is for critical partitions

Hush everyone, don’t tell this guy about noauto, it’ll burst his bubble

I’ve gotten into quite a lot of systemd-related flame wars so far, and what strikes me is that I haven’t heard a single reason why systemd is good and should be used in favor of openrc/sysvinit/whatever. The only arguments I hear in favor of systemd, even from the its diehard defenders, are justifications why it’s not that bad. Not once have I heard someone advocate for systemd with reasoning that goes likes “Systemd is superior to legacy init systems because you can do X much easier” or “systemd is more secure because it’s resistant against Y attack vector”. It’s always “Linus says it’s allright” or “binary logfiles aren’t a problem, you can just get them from journald instead of reading the file”, or “everyone already uses it”.

When it comes to online discourse, systemd doesn’t have advocates, it has apologists.

Why is the daemon smoking? Are they taking a break from their duties? Is this what happens when I run rc-service sshd stop?

Releasing into a saturated market

zero unique features compared to competition

not free to play like the competition

Boring, generic-looking characters

zero marketing/promotion before release

No linux support

I mean is it really a mystery why it was dead on arrival?

Imagine using linux in 2024, TempleOS all the way

He really insists on debian-based, I don’t really know why. And, while Void IS really solid, it isn’t exactly known for the most expansive package collection. Xournal, for example, is not available through XBPS (there is a xournal package, but it just installs xournal++), which is one of the programs he likes a lot. I told him it’s on nix, but he doesn’t want to use nix.

But I agree, Void is amazing, I use it on my laptop. One little-known cool feature of Void is that its official docker images come in busybox/musl libc, busybox/glibc, and coreutils/glibc variants, it gives you a nice scale from most minimalist to most compatible.

I like your comment a lot because you can substitute a lot of different things for “snap” and it still ends up sounding like a very reasonable opinion

I feel like I would be more okay with leaded gasoline if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with anarcho-capitalism if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with PFAS-coated cookware if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with single-use plastic bags if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with cryptocurrencies if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with generative AI if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

I feel like I would be more okay with eating highly processed meat if it didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase ‘Yes, do as I say!’

But speaking seriously, I think he tried it for a while and didn’t like it either… not sure why specifically tho, I’ll ask him

It’s not a miniscule gripe tho. Snap is still broken for many users, and relying on it for something as critical as a web browser is asking for trouble. Experimental technologies like snap should be opt-in for users who are willing to deal with the issues they create. Do they really expect a novice to see firefox’s filepicker not behaving correctly, and think “Aha, an XDG desktop portal issue! Let me drop everything I’m doing and go troubleshoot that” ? Ubuntu is meant to be linux for normies, they don’t have the time or the knowledge to deal with snap.

Next step is probably a VM…

Boy, you’re gonna love QubesOS

One of my friends spent like a month distrohopping just to find a debian-based distro that fits these two criteria:

• First-class support for KDE

• Isn’t broken all the time

Ubuntu fails both. KDE Neon excels on the first one, but fails harder than ubuntu on the second one. Kubuntu as well. Debian has horridly outdated packages, and he refuses to use nix/flatpak. Tuxedo OS is obscure and broken. Mint is great, but installing KDE takes some effort.

He finally settled on Ubuntu Server with the native KDE package. Still has to do some weird incantations to banish snap tho.

How did things get this bad?

…what? Insurance companies are not a “barrier” between doctors and patients. What, do you think some sort of insurance gremlin will manifest out of the ground and kick you in the nuts if you try to visit a doctor while uninsured? Doctors don’t care whether you’re insured or not, as long as they get paid. Insurance companies exist to soften the blow of expensive treatment. The product is not getting completely fucked over if you get very unlucky, just like with any other insurance (life insurance, car insurance, whatever). It’s kind of like bitcoin mining pools, but the other way around. Now, is mandatory health insurance justified? That’s a different discussion.

Yeah, but that’s just because Debian’s software catalog is deliberately full of outdated and/or broken packages. It’s like that on purpose. On most other distros native packages trump third-party install scripts any day of the week. On Debian you can just use Nix or Flatpak to get good packages.

Get two birds stoned at once!!

Yeah but then I would have to navigate logitech’s stupid website to find the download button… and then navigate it again, because turns out the software for pairing standard receivers is completely separate from the software for pairing unifying receivers… Sigh… But hey, at least it doesn’t force you to make an account!

Don’t forget Microshit’s renowned Orifice software suite!

The screenshot is from Microsoft Edge running in Windows 10 (virtual machine) with no/little browsing history and no account connected. I’m hypothesizing here, but maybe these are the reasons:

• You don’t see the ??? section because you’re not on Edge. Bing AI only works on edge (it checks your user agent)
• You don’t see the ad because you have an adblocker