Makes me wonder if Trump actually has someone in mind that wouldn’t have gotten approved unless he put someone so unlikely that the actual pick gets a pass.

I use Teams on linux on the desktop with no firefox. You might try that.

And the huge shift right by male GenZ people. Reading posts by them specifically today: they felt marginalized by democrats and ignored. They felt like Maga cared about them, and they could belong in the Republican party. And some of them simply wanted revenge and to feel powerful.

Now this isn’t everyone, but I gotta say:

WTF are you doing thinking about feelings? And fitting in? Look at the damn effects your choice is going to make based on “feelings”. That group is going to lose consumer protection, worker protection and safety, medical coverage, relief on college tuition, housing subsidies, debt relief, small business loans. What they gain is higher prices, worse infrastructure, and possibly the nastiest thing of al:l the direct path of their income going to the wealthiest people and perpetuating generational wealth for the very few.

Because they wanted to “feel” like they were seen and heard as men. You got played!

Putting a poison

It’s not a poison, this type of bullshit fear-mongering just highlights how hollow your arguments are. You’re arguing that the delivery method of fluoride is wrong, and then you call it a poison. Stop taking cues from anti-vaxxers.

If you do not think fluoride is a poison you are out of your mind. You didnt seem to understand how chlorine worked, so I guess its par for the course. There are 188 superfund sites in the US to clean up… FLUORIDE. There are even communities that have to remove it from their drinking water. There are strict limits on the ppm in water, so you think everyone is getting the same dose by adding it?

I gave two examples, you want me to write a damn paper? There are PLENTY MORE. The study in the UK came to the same conclusion. But no matter what I say, you are going argue. True Brita basics do not remove flouride.

And yes I am suggesting, the WHOLE FUCKING TIME, that the US can do better. That this stop gap is stupid, because of the reasons I gave. Why do you want to argue this shit?

The examples of negatives are the deaths that occurred in Alaska, and the injuries in Utah due to human error. Those are rare though. Chronic ingestion of fluoride in large amounts interferes with bone formation. But then there is the study that prompted this discussion, which is interesting, but it needs more review. I looked through the 300 pages and the summary, and I am not convinced.

We are not far apart on this: I am not against fluoride. I am just not hugely in favor of adding it to the water supply if we don’t have to. Ingestion is not the same as oral application. A person drinking black tea is already getting decent amount of fluoride. Should their water also be fluoridated? Looking at other countries that do not need to do this is something to strive for.

So explain to me how Denmark has the best DMFT index score (decayed, missing, or filled teeth), yet they do not add fluoride to their water.

Or Kuopio Finland, that was the only city in Finland that fluoridated then stopped.

This study indicates that, among children and adolescents whose permanent teeth erupted in the mid-1970s or thereafter, even a longitudinal approach did not reveal a lower caries occurrence in the fluoridated than in the low-fluoride reference community. The main reason for the modest effect of water fluoridation in Finnish circumstances is probably the widespread use of other measures for caries prevention. The children have been exposed to such intense efforts to increase tooth resistance that the effect of water fluoridation does not show up any more.

Again, better health care, better outcomes. Putting a poison that becomes a random dose depending on age, consumption, and concentration into water is stupid. You wont change my mind. It may be a necessary evil to get to better care, but we should be able to stop doing that.

And yes, I don’t know any kids who actually are willing to drink tap water anymore. Its all bottled, brita, or filtered these days.

Bozo? So are we having a discussion or what? Do you just want to argue about how you feel and have a slapfight or are you willing to actually discuss this? Uneducated indeed.

Yes, Kids these days. How much water do kids drink? How much TAP water do kids drink?

The latest studies show a rise in flourosis

Along with a decline in having teeth rot and fall out, damn what a tough choice.

Except NO. That is what I am telling you. The studies that have been done have discovered that the effectiveness we saw in the 1950’s is not the same as today. With the rise of Fluoride in toothpaste the differences are negligible.

Do you know the difference between Chlorine and Flouride? Chlorine is an evaporating compound. Don’t want chlorine in your water, let it sit for a day. Boil it.

Fluoride does not evaporate. It concentrates.

You literally are disagreeing with decades of evidence

Nope. I am willing to look at and understand current studies and evidence. Are you?

I hate that this stance appears to agree with RFK Jr. He is an idiot. I said it was a municipality issue, not a federal issue. I said I would support flouride in toothpaste and a program to assist with that. I also can agree that a municipality may find it necessary to fluoridate their water if dental care and oral hygiene is unavailable due to various factors like poverty, remoteness, cost effectiveness etc. But in the end it would ALWAYS be better to prescribe the treatment in measured amounts, instead of adding it to the water. That is why I think it is stupid and we need to move beyond it.

Did you read the second part of my comment? Just how much water do kids drink these days? How much more effective is using fluoride AND developing good brushing habits?

The latest studies show a rise in flourosis, and a decline in effectiveness since the widespread use of fluoride toothpaste.

It seems crazy to me to add a chemical to water that had no dose control and concentrates upon boiling if there are better options.

Isn’t this a state and municipality decision?

Personally I am in favor of removing floyride from water. I think it’s stupid.

But I am fine with replacing that with free fluoride toothpaste for children.

Either way that is not a federal decision to make.

And yet I am watching a re-resurgence of collecting crap began anew. Take vinyl for example: heavy, bulky, environmentally awful and on par with if not worse sounding than alternatives. But people want something tangible. Which I am also beginning to see with old collectables. Also art: there is a movement to get physical art since digital is not tangible and possibly not even made by a human.

China, silver, and plastic ware: I have seen an uptick in those as well which is bizarre. Is it just a matter of time till the cycle comes around again?

I agree, but I am not sure what that will look like. Restructuring? Bail out?

They currently don’t make anything anyone even wants. How long till they can retool and get competitive?

In any case, it would seem like whatever is promised to employees now may not be what they get in the future.

Might as well promise them anything. Boeing is likely to fold or require layoffs soon anyways.

You are not helping!

It’s has been a great game on my steam deck while I have been traveling.

Don’t tell me this! I have it on my steam deck and it is addictive enough. I had no idea it was available on android. I am going to try and pretend I didn’t read this.

I have been using openmediavault for years and years. Basically debian with some configuration already done for a web gui, quick access to shares and user controls, and a simple but ready docker setup for your containers. Extremely light weight.

I have unraid on a test server, but I just can’t see the point of using it over omv. Raid is not important to me, you have to make backup either way. Containers are containers, and a vm is not something I need

Care to elaborate a little?

I now see the angle you were taking in your comment.

I read it as no one can stop you from growing it,

And I believe you are saying corpos will mass commercialize it just.like tobacco.

Thanks!

I am confused, tobacco is legal to grow for your own use.

You tell me the difference when that film is continuously converted to a gas in the atmosphere. So you are saying as long as it’s thin enough it’s not important to worry about?

No they have not phased out bpa for all aluminum cans. As of September Germany for example is still waiting for regulations on bpa.

Also in Srptember a new company is about to replace yet another attempt at.making a clean lining for aluminum because the bpa became bps etc.

A thin plastic film… in other words a plastic bottle.

Actually a resin. Made of BPA, which is released into the atmosphere during the recycling process. Which contributes to the 1 million pounds of bpa released every year.

Basically small amounts of plastic BPA, burned into the air for each and every can.

So no cans currently do not solve the plastics problem.

Their point was that buying a can just means you are buying a plastic container anyways, that happens to be reinforced with aluminum.

It’s still a plastic bottle.