• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      7 months ago

      I was going to say the same thing. Maybe these are the especially shitty jets that are even shittier than their normal shitty jets?

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        7 months ago

        SU-35s are legemdarily good like their older SU-27 brothers. They’re arguably the best Gen 4 aircraft in the world now. In general,.Soviet and Russian aircraft have been very formidable.

        What you’re confusing “shittier” with is after Sukhoi hand the aircraft over to the Russian military. At which point poor selection and training hop in, strapped with janky or old weaponry, given orders by notoriously bad tacticians. And suddenly your fancy “Gen 4.5” aircraft is getting downed by anything with a half modern missile in the tube.

        Toe-to-toe it’ll be Israel’s F-16s—which will need modern configs—that will present a challenge. Certainly not the F-15s. But the real contender will be SAMs which I imagine are the latest fancy American ones.

        • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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          7 months ago

          Well… yes and no. Anything made in Russia over the last 2 years likely has electronics that are rather suspect. I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that some of those new flankers Iran is getting have some repurposed Whirlpool dishwasher chips squirreled away in there somewhere.

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      7 months ago

      The Iranians have been churning out literal thousands of Shahed drones for Russia to shoot into Ukraine. I’m pretty sure this was the other half of the deal they made.