• jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Look man, I’m here to have actual discussions. But we can’t do that when you flat out refuse to accept any source you don’t like.

    I provided you with direct quotes from FDR himself, The DOL, and another user provided additional proof to refute your original comment on this thread about the original intent of minimum wage.

    I haven’t disputed that FDR made that claim, my dispute the whole time has been the accuracy of FDRs claim. No one has provided evidence to support his claim.

    Newsflash, Jimbo: it’s always done that. That’s how laws work. Until repealed they remain valid.

    Doubling down on your ignorance, too bad you can’t own it. The 1938 bill set the minimum wage in 1938 to 0.25, 1939 to 0.30 and 1945 to 0.40. There was not other votes as you eluded too in your previous post, the political climate didn’t change.

    I already addressed the evidence I did provide which you’re stubbornly ignoring like a child refusing to eat their vegetable

    Back to this tactic, never provide support for your claim then lie and claim you did.

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        4 months ago

        You are the embodiment of the Dunning–Kruger effect, you don’t know what was in the bill, ignorantly thinking is was 3 separate bills, and yet you try to come off as an expert.

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            4 months ago

            I’m always amazed at your confidence, if I was wrong as much as you I’d have no confidence.

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                    You’ve already revealed yourself as someone who keeps ratcheting up the requirements for evidence that will convince you every time you get something that proves you wrong, which is arguing in bad faith.

                    That’s how debates work, unfortunately you seem unable to provide any support evidence for your claims, you then get angry/frustrated when you original claim is questioned.

                    The only evidence you have provided supporting your claim is an FDR quote. You haven’t/can’t provide anything else. It’s clear you’re outside your depth, you didn’t know the fair labor standards act set rates for multiple years (I may have set you up for that one…). Your commentary on the political climate as the reason minimum wage was not set as a living wage requires more than your claim. Here is the question you have to answer were there $0.40 bills that failed (there were), and did they fail because of the $0.40 rate (they did not).

                    So I’m just gonna let you tire yourself out here because you’re clearly not interested in actually discussing this matter. You’re just trying to “win” the argument like some sort of incel.

                    For someone who complains about others projecting, you seem to be doing a lot of it.

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              First, you must understand you are wrong. Most liberals don’t grasp or have self-awareness. They believe that if they repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth.

              I believe there was only a short period in the 1960s or 1970s when the minimum wage was actually livable.

              People also tend to overlook the standard of living in the 1970s compared to today. We didn’t have cell phones, we had one car, and we wore hand-me-downs. Having your own bedroom was rare. Homes were much smaller than they are now, and almost all meals were consumed at home. We had a MUCH more simple life back then.

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                First, you must understand you are wrong. Most liberals don’t grasp or have self-awareness. They believe that if they repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth.

                Bubba keeps saying I won’t concede when I’m wrong… The evidence is overwhelming I’ll have to concede your point.

                The most eye opening thing for me was driving through the appalician mountains in the 90s, every run down trailer had a satellite on it. Consumerism has changed every want into a need.

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                  Exactly. The government even encourages it as well with free internet and phones. Everything is a need now.