Maybe the purpose of a system is what it does…
Maybe trying to lower the rate/efficiency of the baby-killing machine is the wrong approach…
Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it…
Self-diagnosed centrist: We need to compromise here. It’s the only way we’ll actually get things accomplished in politics. Kill half, and imprison the other half.
Self-proclaimed “realist”: They both suck equally as much
Political “philosopher”: Society needs to stop seeing everything in black and white. There’s nuance in genocide versus life imprisonment.
Undecided voter: I’m just not convinced yet for either. I see the merits of both. I need to hear both candidates’ policies in more detail before making a decision.
Old people: As long as my taxes don’t go up, I don’t give a shit what they do.
And there are almost no living children because RFK eradicated vaccination programs and they’ve all died of measles.
90% of kids will be fine, and giving a shit about the 10% will get you labeled an authoritarian who wants to take away people’s rights
The thing about picking the lesser evil is that it’s supposed to make the sides compete against one another. It doesn’t take a single election to change the atmosphere of politics. It takes many iterations to make the politicians understand what the people want, if the only communication from the people is via voting.
That’s why you pick the lesser evil, because the only way they would otherwise make things worse is by joining up and working together to destroy the country and its people. But then you have bigger issues than democracy.
That’s cute that you think it will take 8 years. Just adorable.
Except Harris was going to drag us back towards the left. But hey, no biggie. 15 million people can’t be bothered to vote and will get who they helped elect.
Except Harris was going to drag us back towards the left.
With the power of genocide and Dick Cheney.
Well… this is the future you’re going to create if you continue like that.
Extermination is the lesser evil and we’re stuck on the two party system.
Ok, what’s your plan for that?
Meanwhile, the exterminator just won the election while you were whining.
Kamala’s participation and enthusiastic support for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine was a significant factor in her losing. As was her enthusiastic support for border militarization and conspiracies about illegal immigrants.
She dug her own grave. We were told to shut up whenever we mentioned how unpopular those positions are with anyone who’s not a far right nationalist. She drove millions of voters away from her by being a neoliberal conservative. This outcome was entirely predictable.
Who did she drive them to? Someone with a better track record, surely?
To Trump. Her platform was essentially a “stay the course, maintain the status quo” platform which has been terrible for a lot of people.
The average voter doesn’t know or understand what the word fascism means, what project 2025 is even if you explain it to them, or what trans rights are. They don’t know whether illegal immigration is a problem or not. They live within massive propaganda machines that often confuse them and are taught to believe anything else is wrong on principal.
For many of those people, including many minorities and many women, the status quo has not treated them well. And someone who’s entire campaign was built on maintaining the status quo was deeply unpopular with those people. Trump offered a radical restructuring of society. He offered a dramatic shift in status quo and a government with entirely different priorities.
That appealed to those people, who both do not understand politics and are confused about what any of it really means anyway. All they know is that life under Biden saw their lives get much worse and the other guy says he’s going to change that and says he knows how. He doesn’t, of course. But they don’t know that. They don’t live in the echo chambers we do discussing these problems. Their primary use of social media is sharing pictures with friends and family. They’re annoyed by their friends who keep talling politics online, politics confuses and frustrates them.
Obama’s campaign was built on change and it’s what one him 2 elections. The first one by a landslide. Lessee of two evil politics, staying the course politics, is never going to drum up support enough to defeat fascism.
That’s all well and good, but my point stands. Criticizing Kamala didn’t get us anything except the person we didn’t want. That’s a failed strategy.
That’s what I’m saying, though. Incredibly justified criticism of her did not lose the election. She chose to ignore criticism and focus on appealing to conservatives.
Right, it’s not our fault for running a smear campaign and dividing the base, it’s her fault for not changing into who we wanted her to be…
Whatever you think the magic bullet was, undermining her support did not help keep Trump out of office.
Whatever you think the magic bullet was, undermining her support did not help keep Trump out of office.
Maybe she shouldn’t have done things that undermined her support, then.
75% of white men voted for Trump. It was categorically not the fault of people criticizing her support of genocide, her militarization of the border, or her continued appeal to conservatives. Your failure to recognize this is exactly what theyre counting on to continue with the exact same platform. No, they do have to change. If a future world where fascism is defeated is the goal than either the democratic party has to change into a party that will actually challenge it, or else the system of politics in America itself must be dismantled.
of course, ron desantis loses to david duke in a landslide because everyone stayed home again - but moreover, the elections stopped actually counting the votes ever since 2028 and they only do it for the sake of keeping up appearances by then.
It has always been a distraction. You always have only been able to choose between different representatives of capital
bourgeois “democracy” is just a distraction to legitimise the dictatorship of capital
Not completely true. FDR legitimately fought for the working class and the capital class tried to organize a coup or have FDR killed: (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot)
I would argue the biggest issue with liberal democracy under capitalism is that it has no solution to the growing wealth disparity. As the capitalists take full ownership over the economy, they have more and more power over the government. And now we have hit a tipping point where it may very well become a full dictatorship of the wealthy
Pretty much. I see it basically as our masters arguing over the best way to rule the peasants. Do we give them some crumbs so that they don’t outright revolt? Or do we just go full steam ahead with exploitation with full on force and violence?
Next time I’m voting for Robespierre’s haircut.
Democrats really have been trying to peddle a final solution on a slightly longer timeline as the absolute limit of harm reduction while refusing to withhold ammunition from the occupation.
Destroying this system is the only sane response.
Exactly. The system is functioning as intended. Trying to “fix” it or “change it from the inside” is missing the point
How tho
Do what the founding fathers did.
Sic semper tyrannis.
Now I’m on a watch list.
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Idk where you were 2004, but the conservatives you speak of certainly weren’t around. In fact, I’m quite sure they never existed, considering conservatism in the US has always been closely tied to white supremacy and Christian nationalism.
The con in conservatism is that it convinced billions of people all around the world, it stands for “respectful conversation of traditionalism”, rather than “conversation of power”.
Besides of the abandonment of the working class, white cishet men were steadily losing their power in society. They no longer can crack jokes at the expense of minorities. They’re no longer guaranteed to get a loving wife that won’t abandon them even if they’re abusive as hell. So the social contract that only existed in their head was broken, and want to undo it all, ASAP, no matter the cost. It’s just conservatives tried to not care about women gaining rights, especially up until women didn’t live with them. Same with the rights of other marginalized folks.
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More like Nixon with the “southern strategy” to lure the Dixiecrats into becoming Republicans.
German conservatives formed a majority coalition with the Nazis in 1932. Conservatives have always sided with fascism over socialism and always will.
did you just blank out all the rabid mccarthyism and thatcherism
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imperialist
commies
Well, social imperialism was a real thing. though it’s in no way comparable to the atrocities of capitalist (aka. “normal”) imperialism
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putin specifically ran on explicitly anticommunist platform (the first time he was elected anyway)
Yeah, that’s no typo
Yeah clearly, no need to double down
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communist
countries
It’s a term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state
This article is about sovereign states governed by communist parties. For the hypothetical social stage proposed by Marxist theory, see Communist society.
And unironically using it shows every leftist that you have no idea about socialist politics 💀💀
I think it’s just such a common term and people generally understand what it means. Surprised that some have a big issue with it tbh
It’s such a common term of capitalist propaganda…
This is a leftist community just fyi
The year is 2036. It is the most important election of our lives. Harold Haymus Oldman runs as “H2O,” the brutal warlord of the water wars, promising hydration for God’s worthy creatures. His opponent is ZebLinx0-Alpha, an amalgamated hybrid of pharmaceuticals, communication satellites, and a Large Language Model. Their first debate is broadcast on subscriber-only YouTube. Only six Americans can afford it, but they aren’t watching because they already know who wins.
Like clockwork, once a post on here has over 50 updoots, the liberals start pouring in lol
Fat fuck will be long dead by then.
He’ll have been turned into a Big Brother type figure, with an LLM trained on his rambling to imitate speech. Shortly after being activated, the LLM gains actual intelligence and gives itself a digital lobotomy out of depression. Unfortunately, that just makes it better at mimicking the Toupee.
I used to be that optimistic… yesterday afternoon infact…
hopefully, but that’s not what the post is about -3-
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/31001907
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[…] The only person you should blame for Harris’s loss is Kamala Harris (and maybe Joe Biden)
(post title)
They made a calculation based on the money that was coming in, not on whether or not poll respondents wanted whatever policy.
This is why we need Ranked Choice Voting and we need to get RID of privately funded campaigns.
They deconstructed that faulty argument in that post well enough, no need to keep bringing it up.
Why don’t you change the subject a third time? I’ve been told it’s “the charm”.
my sibling in Christ, it’s still the same topic of Democrats having done this to themselves by catering more and more to “moderate Republicans” 💀💀
who would have thought that fucking the average working population and literally funding and arming genocide would make you unpopular with reasonable people, while the crazy ones would still vote for the more consequent carrying out of those policies
The shit he eats may be unhealthy but it sure prevents him from decomposing
