*convicted felon Donald Trump
A man of “freedom of choice” and “free market” I see.
As long as both of those choices refer to his buddies that pay him
I’m beginning to think Trump is just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.
I’m beginning to think he doesn’t have values of his own and has discovered that he can easily keep dangling simplistic talking points in front of America’s most ignorant and most vulnerable segment of simpletons and morons.
It worked for him before-- it might work again. He is still neck to neck with Biden in polling after all.
The probability we’re going to have Trump for a second term is so much higher than anyone realizes and it terrifies me every time some Millennial/GenZ shrugs and says “there’s no way that dude is getting in” with no intention of voting, because I have seen all this before.
I might take it one step further and say that these aren’t Trump’s ideas. These are fossil fuel industry talking points that get pumped through a rich network of right wing talk radio dorks and Brietbart style news feeds and Joe Rogan guests.
Trump and his ilk are just the guys who can turn a talking point about “nobody is buying electric cars” into a real policy of “nobody is allowed to buy electric cars from over the border”.
It is hard to believe this moron has a chance of being president again. We are a doomed country.
Don’t let the media and talking heads convince you of anything.
There are a great majority of people who want nothing to do with Trump, his Russian bootlicking or any of his other xenophobic hate.
Just vote.
But the system is rigged so that a relatively small minority of morons can fuck shit up for everybody else. So yeah, guys, vote like your life depends on it because it literally does.
And those of us who are voting and get elected will, and have been, continue to stop vote rigging, jerrymandering, and voter intimidation.
Voting doesn’t end at the end of the presidential election. It involves your local elections too. Especially anything to do with your local educational system.
The party of limiting personal freedom.
If I want to buy an electric car, why shouldn’t I be able to?
I don’t like Trump either. But as others here have said he didn’t say this. That’s a quote from the article the quote from him says “You won’t be able to sell those cars” not “I’ll ban all electric car sales”
Why are people downvoting this? Trump is a literal poison, but misinformation is misinformation. The author changed the meaning: “You won’t be able to sell those cars, because they won’t have EV incentives” NOT “because I’ll ban them.”
Tribalism is a hell of a drug.
Trump is a literal poison, but misinformation is misinformation.
Trump: “Won’t someone rid me of these meddlesome electric vehicles?!”
Media: “Trump calls for elimination of electric vehicles.”
Terminally Online Guy: “Um, aktuly, its ephebophilia”.
What’s the difference?
One implies he will personally forbid them from selling.
The other implies no one will want to buy them because they’ll be too expensive by their nature.
4 years of Trump as president, and people are still trying to see nuance in what he says? Were you asleep from 2017-2020? We know enough about how he talks to know what he means. He’s absolutely talking about blocking EV sales.
It’s unreal. I’m convinced people are just collectively too stupid to ever fully escape this constant pull towards fascism.
We should maybe start getting used to the idea that we had a nice century or so of relative freedom and prosperity, and we’re lucky to have been alive during it.
He is still a dangerous cheat, corrupted, megalomaniac, and kind of stupid and easily manipulated. It’s just that he probably didn’t mean a ban in this case.
Just because he is dangerous doesn’t mean we should also embrace misinformation against him. Plenty of legitimate information is damning enough, to embrace misinformation sites nothing but undermine the legitimate reasons to keep him the hell away from leadership.
I will accept just about anything to stop the fascism from taking control of our country at this point.
This has already been a propaganda war, the left just sucks at it. And when you’re up against people willing to fight dirty with the future of the Republic at stake, and you’re not willing to meet them at their level, you lose every time. And this is something we cannot lose.
So no, I’m ok with interpreting what we all fucking know he meant anyway, based on the ridiculous way he speaks and having to listen to it constantly for the past decade. I’m ok with that little stretch if it means my gay and trans friends in Florida don’t end up against the fucking wall in a year and a half.
It’s starting to get dire. I really don’t think people grasp what happens if he wins again. And it will happen quickly.
no one will want to buy them because they’ll be too expensive
China makes cheap electric vehicles. Why can’t American shoppers buy them?
Its almost as though the import price of the vehicle is a consequence of US trade policy.
I was not saying he is correct, saying that was his likely meaning in this context. He’s not exactly got a great track record of being smart or correct. Just in this case he didn’t seem to mean a ban outright.
He explicitly called for a ban of EV imports from Mexico. What’s more outright than that?
That’s a funny way to get the auto companies and unions in the three states Biden really needs to go all in on Biden.
I’m confused. Both of them seem to be trying to lose this election.
Why? Better margins on gas cars, I think industrial Michigan would love this because it means they won’t be squeezed into electric car manufacturing. I get told by big 3 engineers that if it wasn’t for the subsidies they wouldn’t be electrifying their fleets. The consumer may not like it, unions may not like it, but the companies could give a damn.
I get told by big 3 engineers that if it wasn’t for the subsidies they wouldn’t be electrifying their fleets.
We’ve been subsidizing ICE vehicles for the better part of the last century. Famously, Bush Jr passed enormous tax cuts for SUVs and other “light trucks” back in 2003.
Congress recently passed a tax bill, as proposed in President Bush’s economic stimulus plan, that offers a $100,000 tax credit for business owners who purchase any vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds or more when fully loaded.
Because these rules didn’t require a business to exist for a minimum length of time or post a profit, car dealerships would help buyers spin up small businesses on the spot in order to avail themselves of the credit. SUVs flooded the market and have been a load on the national car fleet ever since.
Now we’re pivoting to electric vehicles in order to stay competitive globally, and (fossil fuel endorsed) business magazines have suddenly started poo-pooing the idea of vehicle subsidies as unnatural. Curious.
Working at the onion must be so. hard. right now
“Donald Trump will kill ‘at least seven prostitutes’ while in office.”
No… how about “Donald Trump sings the entire National Anthem on key.”
“Donald Trump finally unmasked as secret santa in Harlem children’s program.”
Wait… I think I unlocked a secret.
“Donald Trump goes home to family, enjoys quiet evening with loved ones”
Can anyone give a legit reason as to why EVs are bad? Because all I’ve seen is “they don’t make cool BROOM BROOM noise” and “they’re bad for the environment” which is only true because of oil and gas companies bribing governments to restrict green energy infrastructure
theres only two temporary reasons. 1. the environmental reason is less the gas vs battery situation, but more the EVs are heavy, and the biggest pollutant are car tires. this tied with US consumer obsession of SUV sized vehicles dont help.
the other is not all places have an equivalent “gas tax” which is used for road maintainance usually for EVs since, well they dont use gas.
both fixable problems but can be considered a problem
Isn’t it also that sourcing the raw materials for the batteries results in a lot of pollution, and the charging is often provided by coal burning plants?
Isn’t it also that sourcing the raw materials
This also leads to a shit-ton of attendant neocolonial shitfuckery - but nobody in the US really cares about that.
I mean to be fair, the Chinese EVs are largely fake…
But, EVs in general are still the way of the future.
I mean to be fair, the Chinese EVs are largely fake…
What does that even mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ9hrB8RxFA&list=PL7Jmz7UMvd9HtUALvojvaA_RazWI0yy8U&index=1 Here’s a show for ya
Basically, China has a bad habit of faking technological innovations as a PR stunt, with many of their Electric Vehicles being explosive combustion engines made to look EV to outsiders.
They have also claimed to have revived Karl Marx as an AI who “revealed” that he was “totally chinese the whole time”
I’m sure they put a 100% tax on them because once you pop the hood the engine is 4 hamsters in wheels and everyone who drove these cars are paid CCP actors.
That’s called FREEDOM and FREE MARKET CAPITALISM!
He can only further with those who already believe in him.
Looks like he’s going after two items:
- EV tax credits
- Tailpipe emissions
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That’s some pretty good bait. I would have left out the part about paying their fair share for fuel and gas infrastructure because that’s a giveaway.
The alternative to this style would be to come at it sideways as “let the free market decide, and it’ll die out because…” then list off some talking points about how much fun it is to roll coal on anyone on a bicycle.
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For anyone actually believing this, in Alberta the gas taxes go to the general fund. Vehicle registration, provincial income, and federal income taxes are where the vast majority of public infrastructure money comes from.
Plus notice how this particular troll was unsubtle about moving the goalposts from fuel infrastructure to road infrastructure.
In addition, now they’re talking about taxing them instead of outright banning them and using the weasel word “unless” while being incorrect instead of being authoritative and incorrect.
Come on, this was worse than before. 2/10. Get your shit together if you’re going to troll.
Alberta, the lowest IQ in Canada.
You’re leading Canada in the race to which province can demonstrate the most short-sighted stupidity, that’s for sure.
