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    If dragonfucker doesn’t want to be known as dragonfucker, then they need to make a new account. And if the name dragonfucker is offensive by itself then the user with that name needs to be banned.

    https://lemmy.nz/u/dragonfucker

    You can check dragonfucker is their literal username

    I think the mod who removed the comment may not have realized Dragonfucker is the username and not a insult.

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      Indeed it is, they were banned from this instance for trolling and harassment, and were also permabanned from pawb.social for the same reason. They literally incited harassment towards me, made an alt and posted insanely disgusting content in a community with the purpose to defame me. Even sent me porn in my DMs, utterly disgusting piece of shit.

      This is one of the people who needs to be banned everywhere (homeserver ban) sooner rather than later.

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            I don’t think I’ve run into him yet, do I wanna know, or is it something I should remain blissfully unaware of as long as possible?

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              I think they don’t post as much anymore but it was one person who kept posting while using the letter thorn (Þ, pronounced th as in the), people kept complaining that it made their posts less legible.

              They ended up doubling down and incorporating other archaic letters, and over time they ended up writing all of their posts in very unreadable archaic writing.

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                Oh I saw that guy! Can confirm it was annoying, but I like having a few eccentric annoying people on here. They’re like mini celebrities.

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                Not the point, but didn’t they use þ for the th in “three”? And then ð for that in “the”? That’s their usage in Icelandic and I don’t remember them using the letters differently. But my memory isn’t worth much.

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                  The person in question was very thorough about reviving older spelling conventions. I asked him about it once and he gave me a reply written in what he considered right. It was a LOT. Still, I’m impressed with his commitment to the bit.

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                  Do you mean “☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆”? If so, they are very much still active, posting what looks to me at first glance as disinformation. Doesn’t look to be getting many downvotes though I assume it’s because people just block instead.

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                “You know what? I’m just gonna make it impossible to understand a thing I say. That’ll show you all!”

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                On the one hand, bringing back letters like thorn could help improve the readability of English by making it more clear what sound each character represents, especially for people learning English as a second language. We only dropped those letters because early movable type sets only included Latin letters, forcing printers to make do with sometimes unintuitive letter combos. But on the other hand, trying to force it by posting on Lemmy isn’t going to accomplish anything.

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            Oh, fuck off. Best I can do is ‘they’, I’m not entertaining a troll who’s using trans people as the brunt of their joke because they wanna identify as a mythical creature so they can get pissy with people.

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              using trans people as the brunt of their joke because they wanna identify as a mythical creature so they can get pissy with people.

              Hey man, I know that Dragonfucker is a troll, and I’m not defending their behavior or saying they aren’t doing this (not saying they are either) but we shouldn’t dismiss the idea of people identifying in unique ways like drag claims to. Xenogenders are valid and so are therians. I think that using they/them is the least we can do in this situation, and not deliberately use gendered pronouns to describe them. In dragonfucker’s case they want us to do more but they’re clearly not acting in good faith, if someone were, I would try and also encourage others to do so, but dragonfucker literally harassed me in DMs and publicly they have not shown any indication of good faith conduct. They just need to be banned like DroneRights and linkerbaan were.

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              While drag is 100% a troll, what evidence do you have that drag is lying about drag’s identity? Drag is not the first person I’ve met with a more complex identity, and I’ve even met one’s that are similarly upfront with their sexuality. Life, uh, finds a way, you know?

              I think Mossy Feather’s comment upthread puts it best. If drag is a troll, then using correct pronouns and respecting drag’s identity is likely the best way to fuck with drag.

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                If drag is a troll, then using correct pronouns and respecting drag’s identity is likely the best way to fuck with drag.

                I think it’s kind of hard, I would agree with that to an extent but I also know of cases where the troll wanted that and their goal was to make asses out of the people who did that. I once ran across a person who claimed to use Me/My pronouns and would flip out at people if they didn’t use those pronouns. Their goal was to make anyone who tried to affirm them sound stupid so they could mock them. Indeed I saw them talking shit about how “liberals will bend over backwards to respect pronouns” or “look at these dumb libt*rds trying to please t-slurs” in that case I wasted no time calling them out and not playing any games with them.

                It hasn’t been so clear cut with dragonfucker, though they did (almost 100% sure it was them) harass me very aggressively seemingly trying to get me banned on pawb.social, lemmy.blahaj.zone, possibly other instances, and just try to foster ill will against me. I’m not saying this is the same case as that or that I won’t try my best to respect dragonfucker. I do know though that it’s not as clear cut as doing what they want or the opposite.

                I hope no one gets the wrong idea or thinks I’m saying we shouldn’t respect dragonfucker’s pronouns. I’m just saying there’s a point where you need to recognize that following along can lead you into a trap if you do it blindly.

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        Nope. Dragon Rider is Dragonfucker’s display name. Just like how my displayname is “Norah - She/They” but my username is “princessnorah”

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        dragonfucker and dragon "rider" are the same person. Dragonfucker is the username, which can’t be changed. Dragon “rider” is their display name.

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              there’s a load of accounts from either the same user (probably) or the same few users (possibly) including but not limited to hardlightcereal, dronerights, exocrinous, grail, mindtraveller, dragonfucker whose purpose is to make up mad gimmicks and claim anyone who doesn’t humour them is bigoted against australian soulist otherkin narcissists. it’s very funny

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                The behavior between the accounts is practically identical. They have to either be the same person or part of a group intent on trolling. Probably some of the biggest losers too, there’s no clout in trolling on Lemmy, Reddit maybe but not Lemmy.

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                Also add honourarydragon to that list, they claim to be dragonfucker’s SO but their accounts were created the same day and they only show up to defend dragonfucker when they’re getting heat.

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                  i don’t normally pay close attention to usernames but bizarre shit stands out and you can see each account using similar talking points until they get banned or bored and a new one takes over eventually posting the same stuff

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                I had to google what some of those words mean. Are you telling me that this person means the “dragonfucker” literally? That they identify as a dragon?

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    CLM, this mod probably had no idea that this was their username. Likely why they immediately reversed their action and restored the comment after realizing their mistake.

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    Is the mod is saying the offending user changed the comment to reflect the target’s username or that the target changed their username to justify the offenders comment? If it’s the former, there might be something we’re not seeing.

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      My understanding was that:

      The comment called “dragonrider” “dragonfucker” as an insult.
      I tried to politely ask the OP to remove that one word from an otherwise good comment while taking no mod actions.
      After a day of no response (and other activity from OP), drag changed their name to reflect the insult and poke at me for not taking real action against the personal attack.
      I then removed the comment. Trying to ignore drag poking and treat them fairly where it was warranted.

      My understanding was wrong. (According to users who I’m inclined to believe.)

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        Eh, for what it’s worth, those actions make sense to me and seem like going the extra mile to ensure the space ain’t toxic to nobody (or dragon).

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      I’ve been struggling to find another instance that ticks all the boxes

      -allows NSFW

      -doesnt censor swear words

      -allows downvotes

      -isnt an embarrassing name (looking at you sh.it.just.works)

      -defederated from hexbear and other troll instances

      -doesnt cave to elitist interests (.world has now fucked this up)

      -active enough to have a good sized feed of communities

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        -isnt an embarrassing name (looking at you sh.it.just.works)

        You need to lower your standards at least a little bit because sh.itjust.works is probably one of the better servers out there. Mainly because their philosophy is the same as their namesake, which is almost certainly why they named themselves that. I think most people like it when Shit Just Works, and aren’t really fans of the jank, which is what a lot of the earlier days of Lemmy during the Reddit migration were like.

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        -active enough to have a good sized feed of communities

        Personally I don’t think this one matters so long as it federates content elsewhere in a timely manner. Pay close attention to uptime stats on the Fediverse Explorer. Sort by Active Users for best results - and it looks like lemmy.ca is another good option, defederating from Hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml.

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        You can block instances yourself, you don’t need to have your instance do that.

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    Not sure what to judge this one to be honest, but seems weird to remove a comment because someone uses another person’s username

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        After saying both that they didn’t know if they changed the display name, and that the team is more than aware of that person. Bullshit, you can’t have it both ways.

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          Pendantically though, you could in theory, bc they may have known drag from one of the many alts that drag uses after previous ones are banned and new ones are made in turn.

          This person causes a lot of drama across the Fediverse, much of it intentionally by promoting rather than downplaying the discussions about it.

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    You just have remember, most of these guys created subs so they could be mods, not because they wanted a place where a community could coalesce and discuss ideas.

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      This isn’t even that kind of community, it’s the announcements community for the whole instance.

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      I’m on the Community Team for LW. A large part of my effort (in particular) has been to actively recruit mods who haven’t asked for the position.

      One reason is exactly what you just said. Those most inclined to rule are generally least suited. (Thanks, Douglas Adams.)

      Another is that I’ve actively tried to avoid the Reddit supermod situation, where ten people share moderation of every important Reddit sub. You’ll notice that we generally have a different set of moderators for each of our largest subs. (Admins don’t count because they don’t/can’t really mod. Admins see reports for the whole instance.)

      That, of course, has caused other issues. One is that our communities tend to be less consistent than subreddits. You can view this as a good or bad thing, but we’re generally judged as an instance by the most egregious actions of the most egregious community. And we’re all new to this and learning.

      Admins/Community Team also are walking a fine line. It’s natural when you’re drafted/appointed as a mod to want to do your job. I’ve been regularly advising mods to take a lighter hand in moderation, but we’re also trying to avoid watching over every decision they make. They have some leeway in what they do.