Do you guys have good resources on how to feed your dog vegan?

There are a lot of pages online that simply say “consult an advisor” who will calculate what your dog needs. I’m not bad in maths, I could calculate it myself if I’d knew what the dog needs. I can look into commercial dog food ingrediants but there are declarations like “minerals” without any further specificiations. Moreover, I eat a huge variety in differrent vegetables and food in general, yet my dog shall always eat the same according to vegan complete feed. Moreover, I can not properly judge whether a feed is good because the information is missing.

Where does the nutritionist get his information from? There must be someone who has studied the needs of a dog based on size and breed and created a formula such that you can calculate the servings.

I’ve looked into books on amazon and the comments are horrible. There’s nothing on libgen and google scholar doesn’t yield appropriate results.

    • Billegh@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Dogs aren’t, cats are. But I agree. Dogs can’t consent to this insanity. This will be tough on the dog. If you can’t handle that the dog isn’t “vegan” then please give it to someone who can properly care for it. No dog deserves that.

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        Please update to a scientific position rather than assuming

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/ The Impact of Vegan Diets on Indicators of Health in Dogs and Cats: A Systematic Review (2023)

        “However, there is little evidence of adverse effects arising in dogs and cats on vegan diets. In addition, some of the evidence on adverse health impacts is contradicted in other studies. Additionally, there is some evidence of benefits, particularly arising from guardians’ perceptions of the diets. Given the lack of large population-based studies, a cautious approach is recommended. If guardians wish to implement a vegan diet, it is recommended that commercial foods are used.”

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          I’m pretty sure that the entire scientific community would agree that dogs can’t consent to a vegan diet. We don’t force humans without consent, why would you force a dog to do that?

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            Dogs can’t consent to nonvegan kibble, leashes, living in houses, and countless other things

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              That’s correct, but dogs don’t naturally eat a “vegan” diet, and there is evidence all over the place as to whether or not that’s good or safe for them. I would tend to be ok with housing a dog, but not with what is essentially still an experimental diet.

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                So far the evidence is that as long as it’s nutritionally complete, it’s safe. See the review I linked above

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                  I’ve seen reviews all saying things every which way. Please don’t take it personally when no one trusts your pet review.

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      Please update to a scientific position rather than assuming

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/ The Impact of Vegan Diets on Indicators of Health in Dogs and Cats: A Systematic Review (2023)

      “However, there is little evidence of adverse effects arising in dogs and cats on vegan diets. In addition, some of the evidence on adverse health impacts is contradicted in other studies. Additionally, there is some evidence of benefits, particularly arising from guardians’ perceptions of the diets. Given the lack of large population-based studies, a cautious approach is recommended. If guardians wish to implement a vegan diet, it is recommended that commercial foods are used.”

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        Ahh well, guess I’m blocking this community. Full of wingnuts, even on the mod team it seems.

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          Good call. I’d do the same seeing that mods removed any critical comment to an obviously very controversial topic. If there is no space for critical conversation, there is no use to the conversation at all.