Pride should stem from good personal decisions or accomplishments given one’s situation and life circumstances. Being born somewhere isn’t a decision nor an accomplishment.

  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Needs to be narrower. Nobody should be proud of being from where they are from because they are from there. It’s not inherently good to be from any particular place.

    But you’re allowed to be proud of your local community because of things they have done regardless of whether you were born there or not.

  • whaleross@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    I think the problem is that people conflate being proud of others with themselves. They take on the achievements of others as their own.

    This dude was from my place and was great so therefore I’m great.

    This is what nationalists, fascists, racial supremacists and other extremists do on the regular. They have no achievements of their own to be proud of so they have to steal somebody else’s.

    • tetris11@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      There are two sides to it.

      If a childhood friend of yours grows up to be a skilled athlete, you can be proud that someone with a shared downtrodden background as yourself has excelled: it’s a shining example to the world that it can’t oppress all of us, and there is a sense of genuine communal solidarity in it.

      That being said, if you come from a pretty majority background with plenty of opportunities, and you take communal pride in your friends achievements, then there is nothing really won. The world was never trying to keep your community down, your friend just did well and you should be happy for him and that’s about it.

  • Cloudless ☼@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Yep. People watching the Olympics while being obese sitting on a sofa eating big macs with extra cheese. The athletes did all the hard work, and the audience at home take the pride for whatever reason.

    Humans have not evolved beyond tribalism. They still think in terms of borders instead of the planet.