• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Having logs of opened apps and crashes is NOT the same as scraping everything including content. By making stupid quippy jokes as if this is normal, you at best spread ignorance and tacit acceptance, and at worst spread disinformation.

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      6 months ago

      Here is a 101 on windows telemetry data for you: https://www.makeuseof.com/how-windows-11-collects-data/

      Edge: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge-browsing-data-and-privacy-bb8174ba-9d73-dcf2-9b4a-c582b4e640dd

      360: https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/data-collection-office

      If you use other Microsoft services, they could have your email, exact location and even all the passwords you save for starters.

      At the end of the day, you simply don’t know all the data they collect and can easily be much more than you trivialized. In the privacy agreements, you will see a ton of “optional” collecting which we all know is turned on by default.

      If you think that is still all bullshit, if there is data stored somewhere other than your own PC, it’s not your data. If “AI” can reference your exact history, this gets 100x worse than it has in the past.

      It’s all about the money: https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en/tools/performance/audience-targeting

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        6 months ago

        Yes, if you use Microsoft cloud services, OFC your data goes to Microsoft. No duh. You’re speaking like all the people who are surprised publicly accessible data is being fed in to LLMs and other “AI” math blenders.

        Corporations don’t care about an individual’s copyrights (or privacy). They only care about the copyrights (or privacy) of those that can sue them in to oblivion. If you haven’t noticed, many corporations have enough money to make the US government second-guess opening up cases against them, let alone individuals they fuck over as a matter of course these days.

        We’re already beyond fucked. If you want to keep things private, don’t go near ANY corporate driven services. Any and all interaction is logged and sold for aggregation even before all this “AI” BS.

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          6 months ago

          Wait.

          You are deflecting. You trivialized the data collection that is happening. I gave a fairly good list of what Microsoft collects which is a bit beyond your poo-poo’d description. I only added cloud services and AI as part of the same problem and you latched on to that.

          We’re already beyond fucked.

          Yeah, bud. That was the point of my quip, now kindly fuck off and go rage on someone else.

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            6 months ago

            Your angle on this is hilarious. Keep assuming I’m not making the same point. This is quite amusing.

            I’m saying, “you’re surprised by this?” and went on to describe how the entire system fucks you mercilessly, and you STILL think you’re making the greater point? Pathetic, my dude. Do better.

            You know what it was before the internet and “reality” tv? It was pitch meetings, shady contracts, and internships. They’re all avenues for corpos to steal ideas on the cheap. The “AI” stuff is just an extension of the same old corpo greed that is literally centuries old, but I don’t want to write you a historic dissertation on greed in economic trends…