• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    This is based as far as I can tell.

    It’s a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.

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      It’s a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.

      It’s definitely more palatable when the strangers you’re killing are nazis

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        I can agree that there’s been an extremely minuscule amount of justifiable war in an endless number of wars.

      • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        But the story in the greentext takes place in 1932, before the Nazis even got into power in Germany.

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          Yeah I’m struggling to come up with the war anon could be referring to…

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            Japan was invading China.

            But this is clearly fake and connected to the month of June.

            Anon probably read a story about this happening and assumed the heir of the protagonist. Then used online for attention and group feedback on his projection that hiding in a cave is somehow based.

            They are probably in that cave right now.

    • Elvith Ma'for@feddit.org
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      It’s a bummer how killing strangers for your government is glorified.

      Killing for yourself: Government will track you down, kick your door in and throw you in prison and maybe send you into the death row.

      Killing for your government: Government will provide training, shelter, equipment, pay you and award you medals.

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        Killing for your government: Government will track you down, kick your door in and throw you in prison for refusing to.

        Fixed thar for you :P

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        Do not forget about right to rape and steal dishwashers on your government enemy territory!

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      Tribalism. Our tribe is good, their tribe is bad. If you are not with your tribe, you are a traitor, so people are pressurized into this, and start believing lies about our glorious pride and wise leaders.

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      That’s often the case when it’s a battle over shit like oil but for instance when Germany attacked Poland, it’s the Poles’ primary responsibility to fight for what is theirs. “Let the people who declared war be on the front line” okay well in this example that’s Germany and you’re going to lose everything your family ever worked for.

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        *if you and your family own stuff. Which is not the case for most working class people. The same working class getting shoved to the front lines.

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          Get out with this class essentialism.

          Going from prole renting a shitty apartment who barely owns a car and a washing machine, to forcibly deported or forced to renounce your culture and teach your children the invader’s language and culture is not “potato, potato”.
          Sometimes there are other things to fight for than capital, even if this might sound like a foreign concept to Westerners whose country hasn’t been directly involved in a meaningful non-imperialist conflict since 1945.

          • khaleer@sopuli.xyz
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            Wars are always about profit of one or more sides. Abolish all governments and you will have no problem with nationalistic ocupation lol.

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    I’m going to go with based. I would not have wanted to be a conscript with the rank of private in any army at this time period. You’ll be badly treated disposable cannon fodder and you’ll be stuck in that situation until the war ends, until you get taken prisoner, until you desert, or until you died.

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    Can be pussy and based. And based on the world war death tolls, there’s a very high chance OP would never have been born otherwise

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        Indeed, is there more you want to comment? Or is there more you would like to know about the 1930s in Europe? Now I understand that I am taking a liberty with the assumption that OP is referring to European heritage, but I could direct you to a book or two to expand your knowledge of history

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          okay, sure. which country was fighting a World War in 1932 *edit - come on, why did everybody get so quiet

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            Where does it say world war? I only see war in my country.

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              The comment mentioned world war

              Can be pussy and based. And based on the world war death tolls, there’s a very high chance OP would never have been born otherwise

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            I think you should consider the build up of armies/navys on the 30s. Also some pretty quick runs into Fascism. Red army was taking tons of people for the meat grinder

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              compulsory military service when you’re not in a time of war rarely exceeds 2 years. I haven’t looked into it, were people who were drafted in Russia in 1932 still serving in 1939?

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                ***Soviet Union and yeah. Stalin had his 5 year plan(s). So there was a huge labor demand. This is opening a whole other massive topic that is to long to type on mobile. You can’t think in a modern conscription sense. The Army was likely the only job around for most, 3 squares and place to live. The great depression wasn’t just in the US so you can see how it would be easy to get sucked in. Add in Nationalism and Fascism, bitterness from devastation of WWI. Some saw this as a national duty to rearm and rebuild the army. So they would be looking for young men from every territory for labor/soldiers/sailors. I mean you can look basically any where on earth during the 30s and see that everyone was just getting ready for round 2

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            There were massive buildup of standing armies. Particularly France with their mobilization to construct and man the Maginot Line. Germany and England began reconstructions of huge and modernized navys. Italy was full throttle Fascism around this time. And yes, Japan was moving some serious weight into China

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                Yeah. Again you have huge build ups in the Royal Italian Army, The Red Army, The French Army, the British Navy, The German Navy… Those are just off the top of my head. There is so, so much info on the interwar period. Historians are constantly looking at that time frame because it is immediately after the second industrial revolution, during a global depression, the first major attempt at world government… Incredible leaps in medical, aviation, industry,… this terrifying rise of Fascism/nationalism with some really horrific pseudoscience beliefs attached. Pick a geographic area and just search “x area 1930s”

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    My grandfather did the exact same thing. But he was in conquered France and did it to avoid being drafted by the Nazis.

    Edit: There were also a stories of other people in the village finding other ways to avoid the Nazi draft. One of them pretended to be deaf and managed to avoid falling for a few tricks the Germans played on him in an attempt to expose him, such as dropping a coin behind his back. Another one reported to the draft medical examination after purposefully biking over an insanely long distance. When he arrived he was completely exhausted and the doctor deemed him too anemic for military service. All of those in the village who couldn’t dodge the draft were sent as cannon fodder on the eastern front and never returned, except for one “lucky” individual who lost a leg.

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      Based purely on names, about 90% of those are HARD pass from me.

      The other 10% are a soft pass.

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      My favorite is the Battle of El Sauce, at which the International Consortium of Spanish-speaking Countries defeated the Yum! Brands Taco Bell Corporate Mercenaries to save the word “salsa” from extinction

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    What country was drafting in 1932? No major war effort going on anywhere at the time afaik.

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      Idk about drafts but some conflicts in that period:

      • French-IndoChina vs Siam

      • Saya San Rebellion

      • Sino-Tibetan War

      • Kumul Rebellion

      • Idrisid Emirate Rebellion

      • Najran conflict

      • Uukwambi uprising

      • Annexation of Jimma

      • Chechen uprising of 1932

      • Two-Liu War

      • Kirghiz rebellion

      • La Matanza

      • January 28 incident (China v Japan)

      • Darre Khel revolt

      • Soviet–Japanese border conflicts

      • 1932 armed uprising in Mongolia

      • Lesko uprising

      • Constitutionalist Revolution of Brazil

      • Ecuadorian Civil War of 1932

      • Sanjurjada

      • Colombia–Peru War

      • Chaco War

      And technically the Emus vs Australia. This list has not been vetted by a professional nor is it a complete or exhaustive list.

      • uis@lemm.ee
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        And it’s just one year! Damn, 20th century was very full of events. And 21st century started with Putino-Ukrainian war.

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          Not all of them started or ended in 1932. And Russia v Ukraine is far from the first 21st century conflict, the entire official US vs Iraq war was 2003 to 2011 for example.

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    It depends on the war we are talking about I guess?

    The only war I would participate without question would be if my country (EU) was invaded.

    Absolute based in any other scenario.