• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      One was generically anti-genocide, one was anti-genocide in the context of the Palestinian genocide, namely, critiquing the idea that just because LGBT rights amongst a people being genocided are less than stellar doesn’t mean that genociding them is okay or should be tolerated, even by LGBT folk.

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          Theres something that could be described as a genocide, but its in self defense from hamas. I dont know if its porportional or okay, but Israel is trying to genocide Hamas, in response to Hamas trying to genocide Israel.

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              And Israel isn’t doing genocide, they are just a little too reckless,

              Literal genocidal rhetoric from Israel’s ruling government as they kill 1 out of every 100 Gazans alive before the start of the war.

              Pretty sure they passed ‘reckless’ a while ago.

              nobody is giving a F about turkey turning Syria and the region Kurdistan into wastelands because they want to eradicate the people there.

              This may come as a shock, but discussions of Turkish attempts at genocide and ethnic cleansing of Kurds are actually quite a big deal amongst people who follow international politics.

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                  You gotta need to source that claims, and by source i don’t want to see you taking the numbers of the hamas propaganda ministry or their Gaza health ministry, and i also don’t want to see any sources just repeating those numbers.

                  Is the IDF acceptable as a source? The IDF claimed 10-12,000 ‘fighters’ killed and a ~50% civilian casualty ratio - meaning by their own estimates, back in February, they’d killed 20-24,000 Gazans - or about 1-in-100 of the prewar Gazan population.

                  You are also kinda silent about the fact that Israel is literally self defending in a war not started by them.

                  I don’t give a fuck who started it. Genocide still isn’t an acceptable response. There’s a reason why support for Israel started high after Oct 7 and plummeted in the following months. And it’s not because everyone decided antisemitism was going to be the next hot thing.

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      There are two genocides occurring in Israel/Palestine. IDF against the Palestinian people, Hamas against the Israeli people. The only morally correct position is to be against both, correct? And to support the non-combatant civilians on both sides?