RaymondPierreL3

@Joshi
Disagreements are fine, more than fine, they are needed if we are to understand where we stand on issues and why we do so.

My thinking is that the fourth estate should not be ‘muzzled’ by laws in what it produces as ‘editorials’ and ‘opinion pieces’ because that would be ‘censorship’. Australia has a history with govt censorship and we really don’t want to go back there (plenty of detail on the internet if interested).

Such opinions and editorials are not, of course, beyond the laws as they stand today. This is why liable cases are brought against journalists and their agencies from time to time (even if the legal system is somewhat skewed to favour the well-off, ie. those who can afford the usurious legal fees). That works fine up to a point. In my opinion, access to the legal system should be broadened to cover those aggrieved but too poor to litigate. Everyone should have received an education which equips them to know the difference between news (the reporting of a factual event) and editorails and opinions ( as well as infomercials, copyadvertising, puff pieces, fiction and propaganda).

As for the last of these, propaganda, we only need to strengthen our electoral laws to cover it, at the expense of extremist political groups if needs be. The benchmark being ‘factual truth’, subject to litigation, in political advertising. More work for govt here.

As for ‘news reporting’, the only culprit for the lies ‘reported’ are those who originally spoke them or performed them. In an open democracy you would not want to censor that (even if the reporters are slack and don’t put in the work to point out the fallacies, lies and misdirections in the items they are reporting on - that’s another issue altogether). Maybe there needs to be more that journalism as an oversight body ought to do to bring rogue reporters to heal (something like the medical profession does, or the govt does with respect to trade registration regulators).

Last, we all know that the nearer to a monopoly an enterprise is the worse off everyone else will be. And here our govt out to have the power to break up these monopolistic empires (aka Murdock and quite a few others). Divestiture legislation ought to be supported by all our representatives in Parliament ( those that won’t, do not have our social and financial interests in mind - one then wonders what the F** they are doing in Parliament in the first place, but that’s another story to tell).

Happy to read your own thoughts on this. Apologies for the length of this toot.

BTW, for the trolls out there reading this (you know who you are) present your arguments without attacking the person and you’ll get a lot more out of your ‘doom scrolling’.

#journalism #corporatemedia #censorship #auspol #Murdockcracy

@maniacalmanicmania
Bye…

@Moc
Don’t read them, don’t watch them, don’t buy their stuff. It’s all up to us (consumers) whether bad actors are successful or not. Rage against your fellow citizens for giving them oxygen and money instead.

@Joshi
You sound very angry. The first question you need to ask yourself is : What it the truth? And whether a journalist’s opinion or perspective is - just as your toot is - truth or not. In fact, our own personal truths are a collage of what we have accepted as truth based on our experience and that of others we trust for one reason or another - nothing more.

So your truth may very well be someone else’s lie. What makes you, or anyone else, judge and jury? It might all boil down to the majority view in which case we’re talking about the tyranny of the majority - is that kind of world you desire? Where would you draw the line on what is legal or not? And on what basis would you make that decision? Nothing is black & white.

I think we should stop the thread here and agree to disagree my friend.

@Moc
I think you’re reading me wrong. A discussion on law and order would be too long winded (and peppered with points of view - some irreconcilable ) for me to entertain at this time. Let’s just say that ‘muzzling’ the citizenry is a double edged sword. We ought not invite anarchism nor encourage tyranny, it’s a fine balance. And where the fourth estate is concerned, a rocky path at best where, should we tread too heavily, we will impoverish our society. I hope that makes my thinking clear on this issue my friend. It is hardly controversial.
#lawAndOrder #FeedomOfThePress

@Moc
‘Forcing’ is akin to tyranny and would limit our ability to explore and debate perspectives other than our own thereby closing ourselves off from any possibility of ‘learning’, ‘growing’ and bettering ourselves.

@Joshi
It cannot be made illegal, nor should it. What ought to occur is for a ‘universal’ education system to teach all kids (because we no longer go to school ourselves) how to spot dis-misinformation and uncover the ‘agenda’ behind them with ‘clear thinking’ skills (Foremost amongst other skills) IMHO.

As with any issue of survival, the application of effective skills are worthy solutions to the problems we face.

#fakenews #corporatemedia #education

@Ilandar
Bugger… my favourite burger joint (for its vegie options)…