Vice President Kamala Harris is planning on showing up for the previously agreed-upon debate set for September 10 on ABC – even if Donald Trump does not, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN.
    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      542·
      3 months ago

      Seriously.

      Stop bending over for the opposition. Democrats for the past 25 years kept compromising while Republicans got what they want and then moved the line.

      • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
        121·
        3 months ago

        Compromising for 25 years? Someone doesn’t remember Clinton, the original compromiser. Or Reagan Democrats.

      • someguy3@lemmy.world
        122·
        3 months ago

        They compromise because Dems need all three of presidency, house of representatives, and Senate to pass anything. They’ve had that for, drumroll please, 4 of the last 24 years. That’s 2 years under Obama and 2 years under Biden. Or if you want to go back further, 6 of the last 44 fucking years. And you wonder why they are forced to compromise?

  • expatriado@lemmy.world
    871·
    3 months ago

    I hope they use an empty lectern and focus at it every time Kamala mentions Trump.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
      401·
      3 months ago

      Naw. Use a cardboard cutout, and have recorded statements of his that then she can play according to a little prearranged sounding board. Play some of his greatest hits, like grab ‘em by the pussy. Play back some of his Biden debate answers and go into depth as to why they are false. Play a little montage of things he was saying about how COVID’s not that big a deal.

      You can set it up a HELL of a lot better than just her giving a speech and focusing on an empty lectern. You can still have an exchange between the two of them without needing him to be there. And then, have her finish it up by saying hey Donald there was a lot of stuff I didn’t get to. We’re gonna do this again in two weeks; if you want to be here we can do a debate, and if not, no biggie, I’ll just pick up where I left off. Let us know and all the best.

      Oh, and then at the very end play back him saying any time, any place, and just sort of shrug and look around confused, like you’re searching for him somewhere on the debate stage. And then say all right then, see you in two weeks I guess, maybe, and then wave to the crowd and say all of y’all have a good night.

    • Nurgus@lemmy.world
      27·
      3 months ago

      A British politician once failed to show up for a panel show and they replaced him with a literal tub of lard. For the whole thirty minutes.

      It seems fitting for Trump.

      Link in case anyone cares: (be warned, it’s old TV) https://youtu.be/3dZMvrClypM

    • InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
      7·
      3 months ago

      Put a bag of cheeto’s there, and have her refer to him as 34 time convicted felon. Don’t say his name, he’s not worth it.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
    62·
    3 months ago

    Maybe Old Man Trump forgot he agreed to this specific debate with Harris? He’s weird, but give him the benefit of the doubt (until he doesn’t show up).

    • Rob@lemmy.world
      25·
      3 months ago

      You mean the senile senior, Dementia Don? 34 times convicted felon and racist rapist?

      • bradinutah@thelemmy.club
        5·
        3 months ago

        Well, everyone is saying it! Poor Sleepy duhnOLD can’t say the Vice President’s first name correctly despite having known about her for many many years. Even now he has trouble! Not just sad. Weird!

    • Today@lemmy.world
      601·
      3 months ago

      Because they do a civics test and they won’t let him in.

      Edit- that was supposed to say covid test, but if the ignorance fits…

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        191·
        3 months ago

        We would’ve dodged Donald and Ronald if presidents had to pass a civics test or dementia screening.

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      37·
      3 months ago

      No, if he shows up at the last minute, and complies with the pre-negotiated terms, they should let him in. If he shows up at the last minute and complains about he fact-checkers or the moderators or the lack of couches, to try to renegotiate things at the last minute, they should just tell him to pound sand.

      • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
        11·
        3 months ago

        Then he’ll say that Crooked Kamala & the Fake News Media™ (great band name, btw) wouldn’t let him in the debate because they were scared to debate him!

        His base would eat that shit up, not realizing that he’s basically trying to bring a bowling ball to a basketball game, taking his ball & going home, then complaining that no one will let him play.

        • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          3 months ago

          Right, that’s when you just ignore his tantrum and go on and have the debate without him. His base is not gonna listen to reason, no matter what. Harris’s goal should be to persuade the people who are not down the rabbit hole to show up.

      • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
        111·
        3 months ago

        And make sure it REALLY IS a “cold gun” this time.

        Even then, after the Rust incident, I don’t imagine Baldwin is in much of a mood to participate as a trump standee in the first place, let alone in a skit that might give him PTSD flashbacks.

      • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
        71·
        3 months ago

        Incredibly disrespectful to the deceased.

        • Entropywins@lemmy.world
          51·
          3 months ago

          Not everyone’s the same but I’d appreciate people putting some laughter in the world due to my tragic avoidable death if it were me.

          • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
            41·
            3 months ago

            While laughing with the person that killed you? Accidental or not, that’s too far, imo.

            *And this isn’t even taking into account the acting out of one presidential candidate shooting and killing another. Where are we even at that this is considered ok?

    • alekwithak@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      I love this but then there’s going to be a million conspiracies about how the liberal elite are trying to replace Don with a double.

      • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 months ago

        That’ll probably happen no matter what. I said they should do it anyway. Ignore the fucking crazy assholes!

  • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
    29·
    3 months ago

    Flip-flopping weirdo “Lyin’ Don” the bombastic orange makeup wearing racist rapist, lied again

  • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    3 months ago

    She should just take all the crazy stupid s*** he’s been saying on the campaign trail and debate against it.

    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
      20·
      3 months ago

      That would be great. If Trump doesn’t come she can just take his turn for him, “What former President Trump, who was to scared to be here, has stated on the issue…”

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
        11·
        3 months ago

        Or just use canned video of him talking, complete with date/time/location stamp and a QR code to the full video so nobody accuses them of taking things out of context.

        • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
          9·
          3 months ago

          Yes. They can then string segments of different videos together for the debate so Trump stays on topic for the first time ever.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    192·
    3 months ago

    And Fox will give Trump equal amount during the same time slot, thus completely defeating the entire purpose of a debate.

    I think there needs to he three televised debates between presidential candidates, by law. Two for VP. All on PBS, C-SPAN, Twitch, YouTube and whichever network decides to participate.

    More information, by law, or you don’t get to play.

    • downpunxx@fedia.io
      16·
      3 months ago

      yeah, but you completely ignore the fact that Trump won’t agree unless he sets the rules, against Clinton he physically bullier her space by closing the distance and towering over her threateningly ON FUCKING BROADCAST TV IN PRIME TIME, Trump made sure there would be no fact checking against Biden who his team already said couldn’t hold a cogent conversation or reply with any conviction, now he faces a much younger opponent surging in the polls, Trump isn’t going to agree to meet her anywhere but FOX, ever

    • ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 months ago

      It doesn’t matter if he gets equal time on fox. The people that will watch that are going to anyway, and the people that won’t, won’t. He doesn’t have anything new to say and no one is wondering what his policies are. The only people that matter are the ones who are on the fence with Harris. And more serious people will watch her on almost anything other than fox. Let him go on fox and reeeeee into that sycophant echo chamber all he wants.

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
        41·
        3 months ago

        That is literally my point. The reason we want debates rather than “showcases” is so that the public can see candidates debate each other. Harris fans will watch her showcase and Trump fans will watch his with not change (unless you flop like Biden). Undecided voters will likely avoid both because why would you watch an infomercial with uncontested propaganda?

    • GraniteM@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 months ago

      Compromise: Host the debate on Fox, but have the lady that confronted him with his own words at the National Association of Black Journalists event be the moderator.