On accusations of censorship in service to facilitating mis/disinformation in support of a sociopolitical agenda.

  • nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    Quite the accusation to make without providing links to evidence (edit: or screenshots). Are you going to tell me to do my own research?

  • SendPicsofSandwiches@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    While it’s shitty if they’re doing that, I think de-federating is more just for defense of the instance against literal crimes/malicious content. Things like instances hosting CSAM or spam bots. Otherwise it’s pretty easy for users to block instances nowadays (or even to just call for mass boycott)

    • casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      5 months ago

      I agree, and intend to block them on my account, but I am disconcerted with their readiness to censor based on personal bias and feel that their doing so is a critical matter that should not go unignored.

      Even wirh defederation as the extreme, I brought it for discussion to make clear how critical I feel it is for the fediverse to acknowledge it’s weakness to influence by bad actors embedding themselves in positions of social trust.

  • Boinkage@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Reads reason - ah this user definitely said some fucked up stuff and now they’re butthurt about people calling them out.

    Checks comment history - yup.

    • casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      5 months ago

      The modlog is public and you can check exactly what I said that they didn’t like, then make the decision for yourself whether it’s justified.

      And yes, my online persona is that of an asshole. I try to not be too unpleasant of one, but I don’t have the energy to sugarcoat anything and unfortunately go a little overboard with the salt.

      • nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        my online persona is that of an asshole

        After reading this thread, I think you’re just an asshole, the internet has nothing to do with it.

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    This is a false accusation right?:

    i checked out the logs and no comment except to say that misgendering two trans women probably did not help your case.

    • casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      5 months ago

      I’m not familiar with the context of that accusation, besides having seen the meme.

      [insert more incessant rambling here because idk it’s what I do I guess (see edit)]

      At the end of the day, this may be an entire nothing burger, but I am still exercising my right to protest what I have all reason to believe is a deliberate attempt to censor accurate and relevant information in favor of obvious misinformation. Because while I could care less about how or when social media dies, I care deeply about the fruitful efforts of certain bad actors to skew public perception and further a social divide for their own gain.

      edit: just paid better attention to the comment you linked, I was mistaken and that is my accusation. I disagree with the notion that I was intentionally misgendering, however-- I intentionally refused to acknowledge any gender identity for one subject in particular, but the other one I believe to be entirely accidental.

  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Yes, defederate. People should be allowed to speak freely with minimal censorship. Authoritarian governments masquerading as people should be cut off and shut down.

    Defederated Lemmy.ml. Let the Fediverse be composed of real people with authentic interactions.

  • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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    5 months ago

    Maybe this guy is a false flag, trying to poison the slight groundswell against .ml by presenting such a despicable persona as supporting it?

    My money’s on the big brain psyop.

    • casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      5 months ago

      I reserve the vile habit of referring to people/personas as “it” only for a certain type of individual who attacks others based on identity whilst using identity politics as their personal shield.

      This behavior is irregardless of their purported identity or orientation, beliefs-- it is me signalling staunch refusal to engage in any form of identity nuance when I have only ever seen them use identity in bad faith.

      I can recall only two personas I go out of my way to refer to in this manner-- I can’t promise that I wouldn’t refer to anyone else similarly, but I hope everyday that I may never come across more who earn the distinction.