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      I read it as cutting through the spin. We use contemporary words like overnight oats, instead of words like gruel that have strong connotations of poverty, for essentially the same food, to obscure the fact that we are the same working class as medieval peasants were. There’s nothing wrong with gruel; and we’re just not as far removed from peasantry as we’ve been led to believe.

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      Some people get a kick out of making you feel bad about anything and everything you enjoy by reframing it in the worst possible light.

      Oh, you bicycle to work? Enjoy breathing in all that carbon monoxide from the cars passing you and a greatly increased risk of dying due to a driver not thinking that you’re a human being. Hope you don’t cross a street and inconvenience a driver you selfish prick!

      Oh, you eat primarily vegetarian with only a little bit of meat? One, meat is still murder, you’re a prick. Two, of course you would mention it. Three, fuck you and your entire family and your entire gene pool you piece of shit.

      I could probably keep going but you get it right? Don’t let the things that you enjoy be taken away from you by people who are chasing clout and will say anything that they possibly can in order to get it.

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        Way to miss the point. It’s about some people acting like these are choices rather than “this is the best I can do”. Would you really prefer the inconsistency of the gig economy if well paying consistent jobs were available? Would you eat rice and beans for every meal if you actually had the choice? Wouldn’t you prefer just a few more square feet in your tiny home(maybe in the kitchen or bathroom)?

        Acting like people are making all of these choices out of genuine desire and not a good helping of “this is what I have to do to survive” is what the meme is criticizing and what you on your high horse up there failed to see.

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          I get where you’re coming from but in my ideal world we would all work gig jobs and they would provide us enough money to live at the very least at our current lifestyle.

          The 40-hour work week is a lie. It’s not needed anymore, and anyone who sits down for 4 hours and analyzes our current economic system would probably agree with me.

          You have gotten up onto a high horse about how I am flawed and wrong before checking whether I was on your side.

          Besides, the point you are making, while it has its merits, only touches on my point. My point is enjoy what you like. If you like overnight oats just go ahead and eat them.

          It doesn’t mean you’re a “peasant eating gruel”. It’s okay to like what you like.

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            Good luck running your ideal society on all gig jobs. I predict total collapse of infrastructure within the first six months.

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              My point is proved.

              Like I said, some people love nothing more than to reframe whatever you are saying or whatever you are doing in the worst possible light for no reason other than to make you feel bad.

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                I’m not trying to huwt yur feewsies, I’m saying you can’t run an advanced society on gig work. I’m sorry reality is a thing.

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                  You seem to think I have some sort of emotional investment in this and I can assure you that I do not. I’m saying that today’s reality is not tomorrow’s reality and that things can get better, which is a fact and not really up for debate.

                  As to whether or not they will get better that very much is up to debate, but if you think that being condescending is proving your point then maybe you should take some time and think a little longer.

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        My favourite part of Tiny Homes is how they came into vogue and were subsequently priced out of reach of poor people.

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          Fortunatly, the cost to construct one has not changed similarly, and there are at least a few projects around the country (US) where land is owned by a charitable organization/person/collective and tiny homes are being as a solution for some people.

          I really wish I knew of any in my area, I’m currently unhoused and live in a car, doing gigs for the greedy (waiting on a previous state to send mine my background info… for what is now 2 fucking months, so that I can be approved for working in my field) and living in a safe situation without the risk of others doing something to me, is something I very much want to have for the first time ever in my 30 years. I’m a cross country trans refugee, who’s somehow unknowingly rented from a neonazi, a “friend” who robbed me, another “friend” that just took my (sub)rent money and split without paying the rent, or my childhood with an abusive family… so I have concerns…

          And a tiny home at a fair price/rate would likely be affordable for me, but I just haven’t found anything.

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          From what I understand they are still affordable, the cost savings is building it yourself and having the discipline and patience to be able to do something like that on your wages.

          Building a tiny home is a grueling and arduous task. There is nothing TurnKey about it.

          My cousin built one because his mom lent him some land to build it on and so far it has cost him about $10,000.

          That’s pretty good but he lives on a truck driver’s salary and he has a wife and a kid. He’s deeply in debt from his tiny house project and he’s almost done with it.

          Once he finishes he’ll be able to claw his way back up out of debt, which is good, but there are no TurnKey solutions that are also affordable.

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          Yea they were an affordable option for like 2 years then became a novelty that trust fund kids use for a few years before settling into mansions.

          My mom bought some land (.5 acre)and built a tiny home on it, cost over $100k altogether still for a 700sqft 1b/1bth with a loft that can have a sleeping bag if needed but is really storage. Works for her needs and is half the cost of any of the homes in her town that are all falling down but still 200k for some reason…

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          There’s a company just made a cool modular house for 10k but we’re not allowed to like it because Elon lives in one

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      I eat oatmeal with raisins, pistachios, and molasses like 4 mornings a week. It’s fucking delicious

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          Each serving gets like 8 salted pistachios from the bulk food aisle at the HEB

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              I know you’re just making fun, but I bought $6 worth of pistachios today and it’ll probably last me about 3 weeks

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        The food bank gave us a bag of bulk bin pistachios and I’ve been wondering what to do with them (other than just eat them alone) since I’ve never bought them before. I’ll have to give that a shot! They gave us some dried cherries, too; I’m curious if they would be good in the oatmeal with the pistachios, maybe? Thank you for the ideas. :)

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      For some people eating oats = poor, people with money eat bread and eggs and bacon and cereals in the morning…

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        Fwiw, I personally would recommend utilizing milk (or milk substitute, if that’s at issue) rather than plain water. I find the texture and flavor improved. No matter what flavoring additions I make, if the cooking medium is just water, my feeling is that it’s like eating wallpaper paste.

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          Yeah, the texture is not the best, but I found that cooking oats in water and adding frozen berries makes it really good taste-wise. And a colleague told me that adding milk to oats cooked in water is almost the same as cooking them in milk.

          But man, adding semolina to your oats and cooking them with milk makes suuuuch a good breakfast because the semolina provides a tasty dense medium in which the oats are suspended.

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          Yeah, I might try that too. I’m already drinking about half a liter of milk per day so.I thought trying something different :)

          (I might also try protein powder for some extra flavour.)

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    I make overnight oats nearly every night.

    I use steel cut oats in the slow cooker over night, add dates, apple, cinnamon and chia seeds.

    It is ready for me before I leave for work at ~6:10, and ready for the rest of the family when they have breakfast at 7:30.

    What is not to like.

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            I don’t sleep that much. I have the advantage of being a short sleeper, 4-6 hrs per night is normal, I find it very difficult to sleep more than 6 hrs.

            I’m usually in bed by 11, and asleep before 12.

            I wake before my alarm at 5:30

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          that is great, that you can organise work and kids that way! in my estimate, you see your kids more than many 9 to 6 workers

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            I do indeed.

            I also took a job far closer to home last year, I’m only commuting 8 minutes each way now.

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      Hot overnight oats? I always made them in a mason jar in the fridge. My favorite was 1/2 cup of oats, 1/2 cup of vanilla yogurt, 1/2 cup of milk, all in a jar and then fill the rest of the jar up with frozen blueberries and strawberries (cut ones). Close, put in fridge, eat cold the next morning. The oats will have soaked up the liquid and gotten soft. It’s a nice cold cereal and quick to pour into a bowl, stir a bit, and chow down.

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          Yeah that would definitely be my biggest worry. If I weren’t diabetic now I would try it.

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    Tiny homes are fine if that’s all you need or want. I don’t know it overnight oats are. They’re right about the gig economy though, that’s some terrible bullshit right there

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      Its just your standard rolled oats with the other goodies and your preferred liquid stuck in a jar overnight, ready to go right out of the fridge in the morning.

      Personal favorite is cinnamon roll flavored! There are some great recipes out there.

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        I build a few tiny homes over the past 10 years. I think they are cool and all and it’s usually people who are often away for skiing, surfing, mountaineering. These kind of people. What’s the point of a huge house that you don’t want of need. My biggest problems with it is that they are not actually super cheap. Or at least not proportional.

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    i wish i was a peasant

    peasants had the church that would feast them like 100 times a year for saint days and shite liketh that

    i are a serf

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        And while the church wanted a tithe, the manor lord required you to work one or more days per week on his field, using your own tools. This was rent. There might’ve also been monetary rent in addition to work rent. And in addition to the church tithe, the manor lord wanted a tithe too. You couldn’t choose to rent somewhere else, either - while the manor lord didn’t own you, he owned the piece of land you lived on, could dictate your terms, and you’d have to pay a fine for moving away to another manor lord’s service. If he sold the parcel of land, you’d have to do all the same to the new landlord. If you could manage to hide in a city for a year + one day, you’d be free. But if you got caught, you’d be imprisoned until your lord came and picked you up.

        These were the general rules in my area, others would differ. Obviously they changed over time and so on. And much of this is from the chronicles and those were written by the Order, so the real situation might’ve been worse even.

        There’s plenty wrong with our current situation and we seem to be sliding back towards serfdom, but serfdom is definitely worse than what we have now and we can NOT afford to go back.

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          First, thanks for the informative comment.

          The general rules in my area

          Made me imagine that we’d figured out federation backwards in time, and you were commenting from a middle ages Lemmy instance.

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    you can criticise the world without resorting to past = bad which often hides things we have lost.

    Also oats are nutritious, delicious, and efficient.

    How about pointing out how hard you work to afford food that is often thrown out lest it undermine keeping you slaved to “the economy” etc.

    No actually I’m not done. Wanting fewer material things is good actually. Opulence need not manifest in terms of the aquisition of territory and things. What if you have a tiny home and breakfast gruel but you get idle time, community, gorgeous views, freedom etc.

    the problems with society aren’t that you can’t eat figs every meal and stroll around your estate, it’s that mere subsitence demands your soul.

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      Lotta cope and seethe in here as they flay the messenger for bein so rude in handin’ em a mirror they don’t like the look of. I get it yeah? But they’re mad in the wrong direction

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    Overnight oats are really good for my digestion and diet. What, you want me eating steak and eggs?

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      It’s more mocking the rebranding from something terrible, to something more appealing.

      Meanwhile, I have a black coffee for breakfast to help concentrate my hatred in order for me to get through the day…

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      If you eat overnight oats for your tummy troubles the post clearly isn’t for you. If you eat it because you can’t afford other meals it is.

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        Well if you eat it because youb can’t afford anything else you’re quite bright as it’s quite the savings comparitively, most would spend more money on a worse meal!

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      Not surprising, our gut flora love the stuff. My old microbio lecturer used to always get his class to run an experiment where people would test the growth of different types of good bacteria found in the gut using different food sources. Some would be random foods, others would be bio active drink made for the task and, ever present, was porridge (about the same thing). Porridge always won.

      It also has one of, if not the lowest glycemic index of all carbs.

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      And they’re amazing for your diet in general. M-F such an easy no brain option for a meal. Make individual containers Sunday night. Food for the rest of the week.

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      make your own call to action, decide for yourself. you don’t need random strangers on the internet showing you the directiosn. they already showed you where you stand, go and make your own path.

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    Put dried fruits and spices from around the world in mine I eat better than emperor’s

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    I get the sentiment, but overnight oats with honey and banana fucking slaps. I’d eat that if I was queen of the world (ignoring the fact that I wouldn’t be queen of the world very long because I’d use my unquestioned power to dismantle all the fucked up systems that made a “queen of the world” possible)