I’m sorry some posts are being removed from this community. It is the actions of the Lemmy blahaj zone admins. There’s nothing we can do to prevent this. I suggest changing your instance to a better one.

Update: Blahaj blocked NCD

  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    17 days ago

    Blahaj zone admin here. There’s quite a bit of confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.

    No one is “selectively removing NCD content” or anything close to it.

    What happened is that 6 months ago, CDRMITTENS was instance banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone over an anti Palestinian meme they posted. You can see the mod log for that here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?postId=11419938. This meme conflated Hamas and Palestinians in general, and basically blamed Palestinians for their own genocide. Notably, the post also broke NCD rules 2 and 5, but wasn’t removed by NCD mods.

    As a result of CDRMITTENS being instance banned, none of their content reaches lemmy.blahaj.zone anymore. You can see that for yourself here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/u/CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works, which shows that no content from this user has reached blahaj.zone. There was no selective removal or editing of content at play, because none of their content reached blahaj.zone to be able to selectively remove it.

    tl;dr - It’s just an instance ban, not selective moderation

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        17 days ago

        Nuke, not to be a dick, but did you talk to Ada before making this post? Because it sounds like there might be some miscommunication here.

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          17 days ago

          They have the right to remove any content from their server, but I have no intentions of holding any conversations with any admins over what content is allowed here.

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            17 days ago

            No, but talking to the admins might’ve given you a better idea of why this was going down, especially considering one of the cases is an instance ban, not selective moderation.

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        17 days ago

        The first link isn’t removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link

        Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules,

        Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.

        I have no idea about NCD. I don’t use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn’t come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          17 days ago

          and the second link references Pepe

          … wait, is that really enough to justify removal?

          • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            17 days ago

            It is when I’d just removed another post by the same user, conflating palestinians and hamas, blaming palestinians for their own genocide

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                17 days ago

                Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal

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                  17 days ago

                  I understand that point of view, definitely. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t need to be checking my meme folders carefully before posting on 196, not that I have many Pepe memes lol.

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                    16 days ago

                    I’m not associated with anyone in this thread or the situation being discussed. I’m interested how we understand and use cultural signals. Here’s some Pepe detail for the similarly curious:

                    The alt-right got wise to new media in the 2010s. They started meme-washing their hate mongering and trying to normalize coded hate speech in internet culture using Pepe memes and other popular formats. It snowballed and the Pepe meme = Nazi user association is a product of lasting trends from that time. It’s similar to clocking someone for wearing straight-laced Doc Martens or khakis and a white polo.

                    For those in the know one of those items is a small red flag. The wearer could be completely ignorant that these are known dog whistles/identifiers for members of hate groups. If someone is wearing a lot of small red flags then it’s less likely the wearer is accidentally serving white supremacist. That’s the point of stealing and manufacturing these kinds of symbols though: most people don’t know they exist or what they intend to mean so the user can feign ignorance with plausible deniability. They’re the inverse of modern progressive advocacy symbols. Wearers can hide in plain sight with just enough Nazi showing that other insiders see them. Pride icons for cowards.

                    The artist who created Pepe has publicly denounced the character’s use as a hate symbol and regressivist propaganda tool. Whether or not a community or individual “liberates” Pepe from the prison CHUDs built is up to them.

                    For what it’s worth: I lean toward liberate most of the time (fight against the thieving bigots) but in this situation, even given a permissive setting, adding “posts Pepe” as a mark against is sensible. It’s clear the user is either intentionally pushing hate propaganda or else under enough alt-right influence that their intentions aren’t relevant to the evaluation.

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                  17 days ago

                  Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal

                  It’s great you’ve got such a strong moral compass and are an authority on bigotry that can recognize it and weed it out, you could have been an insane person high on the miniscule amount of power tending a pile of shitposts, removing humour because of ideology. All of us the Internet really dodged a bullet there.

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            17 days ago

            reason: Violates server rule #7"

            lemmy.blahaj.zone doesn’t have a “server rule 7”. The removal that you’re referring to was made by a lemmy.world admin and has nothing to do with blahaj.zone.

            Fixed

            Your third link now links to the meme that got CDRMITTENS banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone. This meme breaks your own community rules, and conflates Palestinians with Hamas. It’s outright bigotry

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      17 days ago

      Oof, there is no genocide on palistinians, neither the quite antisemitic UN nor the international court have deemed the military actions of israel to be genocidal.

      South africa still has to produce evidence of their accusations aswell

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          16 days ago

          I mean yes, the genocide on jews is ongoing for millenia but there is still no genocide on palestinians. Only genocidal action in recent years was the 7th of october 2023 when hamas terrorists and gaza citizens crossed the border to Israel to murder, rape and kidnap hundreds of israelians with the intention to finish the work of the nazis.

          But if hamas (nazi) propaganda is more believeable you should stick to that

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            16 days ago

            Yikes.

            There has been a genocide, multiple genocides, on the Jewish people. That’s not in question here.

            You pretending that there hasn’t been a genocide on the Palestinian people since before the British colonized then handed the state to become Israel is on you.

            Anyways, go fuck yourself.